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Old 06-05-2012, 12:22 PM
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Default Steppin on it

It's a good point about inadvertent stepping. I carefully brief new passengers getting in, especially the front seat, and even step them in one foot at a time on the best method as they climb in. However, for kids or repeat passengers, it's possible they could step on it. It's not a real temptation, though, more likely that they'll put their hand on it as they lower themselves in or get out, but even that wouldn't hurt it.

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Old 06-05-2012, 04:16 PM
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Geoff Combs now has a piece of carbon fiber clear coated and it wraps around the edge by a couple inches, it looks sharp. I dont know if he has any pictures on his website I think its fairly new.
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Another option is to shape a piece of foam and then glass it in to fill the space. Essentially you'd be subbing fiberglass for wood.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:33 PM
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Here is my door sill, made of Beech wood.
It is set up to be at the same height as the door seals and has 2 coats of
Clear coat on it. Everybody steps on it and it appears to be very durable, so far. A lot of fit and trial, I just did a "wittle" bit at the time.




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It looks gorgeous Ernst
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Old 06-06-2012, 07:28 AM
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I do have carbon on my sills now. The picture Bill put up was when the airplane was very new. Attached are some pictures of the carbon parts.
They do finish off the edge very nice if you have some sort of interior panel below. It hides the top edge. The picture Bill posted was before I installed my lower interior panel.




I do sell these but they are a little pricey because they are vacuum bagged
and labor intensive. The carbon is very light and strong.
They are not on the web page at this time.
http://aerosportproducts.com

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Old 06-06-2012, 08:10 PM
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No one can argue against Aerosport Products, they are beautiful.
Looking at the door sill cover, it looks very professional but it lacks functionality
in that it does only cover the sill behind the fiberglass lip. You cannot step on either the fiberglass lip or the carbon fiber cover.
I am not trying to sell anyone anything nor am I trying to talk anyone out of buying Geoff's products. I am simply trying to point out that if you fill the door sill space the way I did, you gain a solid entry step. In addition, filling that space will clamp the Mc Master door seal in place and you cannot remove the
rubber seal without removing the door sill spacer. In other words, passengers or the pilot will not accidentally pull the door seal off when entering or exiting the aircraft. My door seals are glued in place with dabs of automotive weather strip adhesive.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:11 PM
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I have no idea why you would step on the door seal to get in the airplane.
I have been flying my airplane for 300 hrs. I have flown 90 young eagles of all size
Kids and adults of all ages and size and not once has anyone ever come close to
Pulling off my seals. Mine are not glued on and work great. I have never seen anyone step on the seal edge or attempt to. If they did it would not hurt it anyways. It is rubber with steel in it, it's pretty durable.
The carbon does serve a function as I said before hiding the top edge of the lower interior panel if you have one installed. I sit on these door seals all the time when working around the airplane.
Ernest's wood sill covers look very nice as well but still have no more functionality other than it makes the top of your sill level with the top of your seal.

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Old 06-07-2012, 06:37 AM
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Default From the Mc Master seal thread

Sorry Geoff,
I should have said "dual functionality" of a raised sill cover.
You really do have exceptionally nice products and I have several of those in my 10.
My comments were based on what my friend said in his quote below.
I don't generally step on my sill but despite a full set of instructions to passengers, they seem to find "more elegant" ways to enter and exit the aircraft. Some will step on the seat and others on the sill.


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I agree with you. I never did the build-up of the lip, so my mcmaster seal is constantly falling off. It is very easy for people to grab the gutter or hit it with their shoe while getting in the front seats. In retrospect, I think a simple foam seal would be hard to beat and look about the same really. It would also be far far easier to maintain and install compared to the mcmaster seal or van's seal.
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by N427EF View Post
Here is my door sill, made of Beech wood.
It is set up to be at the same height as the door seals and has 2 coats of
Clear coat on it. Everybody steps on it and it appears to be very durable, so far. A lot of fit and trial, I just did a "wittle" bit at the time.




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Mine looks almost identical to yours, Ernst. Mine is cherry wood.
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