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Old 10-31-2017, 11:01 AM
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Mine hasn't had any big mistakes (so far, knock on wood), many cosmetic issues. If you're expecting a pristine perfect fuse or wing don't order the QB. However, I'm painting, and the QB is taking about a year off my build time.
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Old 10-31-2017, 11:24 AM
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Mine hasn't had any big mistakes (so far, knock on wood), many cosmetic issues. If you're expecting a pristine perfect fuse or wing don't order the QB. However, I'm painting, and the QB is taking about a year off my build time.
Cosmetic blemishes are one thing. Mine are not perfect but nothing I can't live with, especially given that I'm going to paint. Build errors are whole different issue though. I expect it to be built exactly to plans. I don't think that is unreasonable.
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Old 10-31-2017, 11:30 AM
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Build errors are whole different issue though. I expect it to be built exactly to plans. I don't think that is unreasonable.
Agreed ...
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:52 PM
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For what you pay for the quickbuild kit versus the standard kit, Iím not surprised by the issues you all are seeing. Itís a cost-benefit thing. They could be much more accurate and professional, but that would cost a lot more. They are a production shop, not a custom shop. Itís all about quantity with fairly good quality, not all about quality with fairly good quantity.

The RV-10 kit is so accurately prepunched that you can go ahead and drill, deburr and dimple the matching holes for the ones already dimpled and move on. Now, if the dimpled holes werenít drilled to full size before being dimpled, thatís a serious problem as that can lead to cracking. I would inspect closely first.
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Now, if the dimpled holes werenít drilled to full size before being dimpled, thatís a serious problem as that can lead to cracking. I would inspect closely first.
Yes, I'm concerned about that. I had a look and there is no gross cracking in the dimples at this point for what it is worth.
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I am/was thinking about going either quickbuild wing or quickbuild wing and fuse. This thread has me strongly questioning the quickbuild route. I don't mind a few cosmetic blemishes as I plan to paint. But I can't tolerate poorly formed dimples, holes in the wrong places or dimples with cracks.

I really like building, but due to my age, think that a quickbuild may be the way to go. (I'm just about finished with the -14 emp).

Can anybody be more specific with regard to quality issues?
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Old 11-02-2017, 07:59 AM
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As I posted earlier, I have the QB wings and fuselage. There were a couple of minor issues but the overall quality was fine. I would not hesitate to do the QB again...

No one has built a perfect airplane...ever.
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I have been in this game for a long time and I can say with a great deal of confidence, "on average the quality of a finished aircraft, using quick built assemblies, is much better then most first time builders actually achieve"
Of course serious errors in a quick build structure are not acceptable. Most of the errors that have been discussed in this thread are things that can be worked around without a lot of time or effort. If you want a polished perfect aircraft, build it all yourself, and allow for years of added time.
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I am/was thinking about going either quickbuild wing or quickbuild wing and fuse. This thread has me strongly questioning the quickbuild route. I don't mind a few cosmetic blemishes as I plan to paint. But I can't tolerate poorly formed dimples, holes in the wrong places or dimples with cracks.

I really like building, but due to my age, think that a quickbuild may be the way to go. (I'm just about finished with the -14 emp).

Can anybody be more specific with regard to quality issues?
It appears to me that several QB wings have tanks that leak. You are supposed to check the tanks, but it seems that leaking tanks still prevail. As a buyer, I've always thought that a plane with QB wings guaranteed quality construction. Now I'm not so sure that there is a definite advantage to have the work done in the P.I.

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Old 11-02-2017, 09:09 AM
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I expected a pristine and perfect fuse and wings .. what I got was a good quality fuse and wings with some minor cosmetic issues ..

My expectations were too high, however, like others suggested, the fuse and wings are built better than I could have and it saved me a year.

Buy with confidence! (and use Partain Trading Company + Stewart Transport shipping option and not a carrier service)
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