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Old 10-11-2017, 02:14 PM
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In that case, itís the display device only accepting encrypted data or their proprietary data. We would simply need them to provide us the encryption layer to be displayed on Dynon Skyview, or they could use the GDL90 standard. We use the standard GDL90 available to anyone, most EFIS and most apps. Itís my understanding that weíve offered to be allowed to integrate with the Dynon and Garmin, for weather and traffic display, but again those are closed ADS-B systems.
Thank you for the informative response.
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Old 10-11-2017, 05:01 PM
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Shane,

I'm considering an install of the EchoUAT and the SkyFYX-Ext in my 7A, and I am currently using DroidEFB with a Dual XGPS 170. Is the EchoUAT compatible with the DroidEFB app?

Thanks!
Yes, echoUAT is supported on most apps. On DroidEFB, youíd select Stratux, whoís is a grouping for devices using the GDL90 on port 4000. Theyíve just not added echoUAT. Iíve just tested it again and it works just fine. Hope this helps.
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Old 10-11-2017, 05:05 PM
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+1. A very rational post. No wonder Jim gave you a "thumbs up".
At the risk of Shane getting a big head, my interactions with him and Adventure Pilot, makers of the iFly GPS, were second to none. Reachable and quickly resolved all my issues. Replaced my GPS with overnight service with no questions asked. As you can see, the same level of service has bled over to uAvionix which I plan to add at a later date.

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Old 10-11-2017, 05:12 PM
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At the risk of Shane getting a big head, my interactions with him and Adventure Pilot, makers of the iFly GPS, were second to none. Reachable and quickly resolved all my issues. Replaced my GPS with overnight service with no questions asked. As you can see, the same level of service has bled over to uAvionix which I plan to add at a later date.

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I agree. I never needed support much as the product was really solid, but he knew the answer when needed!

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Old 10-11-2017, 09:53 PM
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Thanks guys for your kind words. Vic, glad to see you are doing well, itís been awhile. No fear of me getting a big head. Just trying to do right as I can.

Pilots are a class of their own and it has been very rewarding the serve all of you. Helping navigate these times has been a pleasure and getting to know so many RV pilots and more. ADS-B and GPS tools can be a complicated and complex purchase so Iím just here to help how I can.
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:04 AM
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John,

Iíd take a good look at the iFly 740 for the Portable GPS. Then the EchoUAT will feed weather and traffic to it and an iOS or Android app. EchoUAT is ForeFlight compatible and works with others like WingX, iFlyGPS, FlyQ, Avare, FltPlan Go, and many more. Maybe even just put an iPad Mini in an air gizmo dock.

Donít get me wrong, Garmin makes good products but you have to know they have a closed development strategy so youíll be tied to their pricey ecosystem. We have an open development strategy for echoUAT to work with most all apps and EFIS.

One option is to get our new SkyBeacon (Wingtip LED Nav light with ADS-B) for ADS-Out. Then get the Aera 660 and a used GDL 39. This would just not allow other app use outside of Garminís app.

We need to determine how set you are on staying with a Garmin portable GPS. If you are comfortable with it, stay with it. The last thing I was is for you to be uncomfortable with your Nav tools in flight. If you are open to other GPS or iPads, etc... then you can likely achieve the same and save some cost. Just trying to help if I can.
This started out to be a simple way to upgrade the original 496 in my RV-12. A friend recently did this with a G660 in a Gizmo mount. The installation was extremely easy, since the new Gizmo mount fits the same physical dimensions as the old mount.

In the process of researching options for 2020 compliance, I became aware of the EchoUAT and its capabilities. I naively thought the 660 and the EchoUAT were a marraige made in heaven, until I started this thread and got jerked back to reality by being informed that Garmin does not play nice with other equipment.

I am not interested in spending nearly a thousand bucks to duplicate the ADS-B recieve function of the EchoUAT, just so I can feed the 660, if I was to install that combination. That seems absurd to me.

I am not adverse to the idea of the iFly units, but I am also not interested in ripping up the panel in my airplane. Whatever I replace the 496 with needs to be able to be mounted in the same location. I have been on the AirGizmo site this morning but the information there seems very sparse on their offerings for the iFly units.

Shane, or anyone else, can you tell me if there is a simple way to mount the iFly into an existing standard avionics stack?
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Old 10-12-2017, 07:59 AM
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John

Perhaps another solution where you leave the 496 in place and add a mini iPad running ForeFlight with traffic and weather. My 12 doesn't have lights or autopilot so these switches are marked INOP. I made a bracket to mount a mini iPad at a good viewing angle directly under the D-180. The bracket covers the unused switches. When I install the Echo UAT next year I'll get traffic and weather on the iPad. For now I'm enjoying redundant GPS navigation.

See post below showing mini iPad installation...

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...1&postcount=12
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:21 AM
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..... I am not adverse to the idea of the iFly units, but I am also not interested in ripping up the panel in my airplane. Whatever I replace the 496 with needs to be able to be mounted in the same location. I have been on the AirGizmo site this morning but the information there seems very sparse on their offerings for the iFly units.

Shane, or anyone else, can you tell me if there is a simple way to mount the iFly into an existing standard avionics stack?
John,

You do not have to use a dedicated iFly portable unit. Although the 520 model is more compact than the 740. You can go with either the Android or i-OS version of iFly and run it on your smartphone or tablet. Most smartphones with large screens (Galaxy Note, iPhone plus) will fit in the 496 footprint nicely. I have iFly and Garmin Pilot both installed on my smartphone and find iFly is my go to app. It is also uAvionix compatible. If you have an iOS device you can also look at FlyQ EFB which also is uAvionix compatible. The smartphone or small tablet has the advantage of allowing you to develop a flight plan at home or office prior to going to the airport. I often whip out my phone to check weather and generally go right to iFly to do so as it is more convenient and faster than consumer grade weather apps. It is also aviation specific weather. When friends an I start talking about a fly-out it's nice to have the phone available with iFly. The phone/tablet also keeps databases and software updated via wifi or cell data. When I go fly I use the same smartphone device with a USB cable for power. I have ferried aircraft as diverse as a single-seat Pitts, Huskies, Cubs,. RVs and a Comanche across the country with my smartphone as primary nav.

I would suggest trying the free 30-day trial of iFly on your phone or small tablet and see how it works for you. If you like it my preferred mount is a 1" RAM ball on a SlipGrip snap-in case holder. You could also just mount a SlipGrip case flat. SlipGrip makes totally custom snap mounts based on a specific phone model wearing a specific brand case. They are awesome.

The support from Adventure Pilot / iFly is secondary to none and even though FlyQ comes close, there is no software as easy or intuitive to use as iFly. And in my estimation there is no more convenient a device for it than my smartphone.

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Old 10-12-2017, 09:25 AM
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Shane, or anyone else, can you tell me if there is a simple way to mount the iFly into an existing standard avionics stack?
John,

When I was at AP, I found some ďRichter PlatesĒ that would mount to the panel, on a flat surface and would allow for a Snap in quick release style mount for the 740. Adventure Pilot would likely still sell one of these. Here are some links to similar items... one offers a swivel/tilt. Iíve had many happy customers using a variety of these over the years. Just depends on the look and functionality goals.

https://www.amazon.com/iGrip-Herbert.../dp/B00847J7M8
Or
https://www.amazon.co.uk/4-Prong-Ada.../dp/B003W4V0CI

Additionally, Max over at AirGizmo is a great guy and they make a great product. I have an Airgizmo in my 172 panel... caution though, it takes 8Ē of vertical space for the 740 mount if you are putting in a standard stack. If you have room, thatís the route Iíd go.

A couple other resources for mounts would be Nic at MyGOFlight. They make some slick mounts... and another is ProClip USA as they have some low-profile mounts.

And finally, the 740 is flat on its back and only weighs about 13oz... I canít tell you how many pilots just used the 3m Command Strips or High-Perf Velcro... it wonít slide or gum up.

Hope this helps.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:32 AM
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Iíd agree with the prior two guys. Portable GPS units are loosing luster over years, but some really want to stay that course. iPad and Android devices are solid and offer great flexibility. Theyíve also gotten much brighter recently. iPad Pro or Samsung Tab S3... are very bright.

That was my first option to suggest a ways back. EchoUAT with SkyFYX-EXT bundle and feed to and iPad or Android. Then if you want to add and EFIS like GRT or MGL, etc later... the EchoUAT supports that. Lots of flexibility.

I was just trying to offer you a more open ecosystem portable GPS system.
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