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Old 12-28-2018, 10:21 PM
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Let me try and explain in more detail. I have built three RV10s.

Secondly let me split the tow issues at hand. Windscreen and windows.

The first one (RVI) has been flying since 2010 and I have sold it three months ago. I have that horrible Weld-On on the windows. Applied filler, sanded it smooth and painted over it all. After 8 years of service, there are a few small cracks. Note that I did not do a glass layup over the windows.
On the windscreen I have used Sika, done a glass layup all around, applied filler and smoothed it. Then painted over the Sika line and onto the windscreen all around. To this day no cracks at around the windscreen.

The second one was JVR - the green one above. I have finished it in July 2014 but unfortunately it was destroyed in December 2016. Sad. Here I went for glass layup all around the windscreen and the paint was obviously applied as seen in the pictures all around.

On this one I have opted for the Cirrus look with the windows with the plexi totally exposed. It is here where the miss understanding was. I have asked them to paint up to the Sika and they went over. Up to shortly before the accident, there were no cracks.

The latest and third one was XOX finished recently. Also posted somewhere above. Here we wanted the black posts and obviously this called for a different approach. The windscreen - only glass layups around the bottom and this then painted. The rest of the windscreen painted up to the Sika. On the four windows I have kept the plexi exposed and it was painted up to the Sika line.

Yes Dan the windscreen has been set in a good bed of Sika under the glass in all three builds.
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Old 01-07-2019, 11:35 AM
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The latest and third one was XOX finished recently. Also posted somewhere above. Here we wanted the black posts and obviously this called for a different approach. The windscreen - only glass layups around the bottom and this then painted. The rest of the windscreen painted up to the Sika. On the four windows I have kept the plexi exposed and it was painted up to the Sika line.

Yes Dan the windscreen has been set in a good bed of Sika under the glass in all three builds.
Jan,

Can you post or PM me pictures of the windows on your latest build. I too am interested in black posts and a seamless "one large window" look. Thanks.
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Old 01-15-2019, 06:38 AM
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Hi Mike,
I have sent you a PM a few days ago asking for your email address.
Have not received a reply yet.
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:14 AM
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Hi Mike,
I have sent you a PM a few days ago asking for your email address.
Have not received a reply yet.
Sorry, but I didn't get that PM, or at least I couldn't find it. My email is below. I need to get in touch anyway about your fairings. Shoot me an email at the address below.
ppilotmike at gmail dot com
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:00 PM
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Email sent Mike
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Old 01-16-2019, 08:13 PM
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I’m seriously considering using the Sika. I watched the Glastar videos and researched here. He used Silpruf and no primer was required. Is the cleaner and primer a must with Sika?
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I’m seriously considering using the Sika. I watched the Glastar videos and researched here. He used Silpruf and no primer was required. Is the cleaner and primer a must with Sika?
Yes. I am doing Sika and asked this question of them directly. I don't expect to use half of the primer and cleaner. Would be great if you buy the remaining half from me at 1/2 price. I expect to receive it this week and install windows next week, so should have a good 5 months of shelf life after I am done.

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Old 01-17-2019, 07:20 AM
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Thanks Larry, sent you a PM.
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:17 PM
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Having looked at a few replies, here is my 2 cents.

I have used Sika on a 7 and an 8 and it has been superb.

It provides a firm yet flexible bond for the plexi onto the sub structure, whether it be aluminium or composite.

Vans offer a very uniform and conservative solution to windscreen bonding using their recommended product, however if you are abroad it causes shipping problems etc etc.

If you look at the Sika product literature, it shows clearly that Sika can be used for bonding organic glass (Plexi) to just about anything short of grass !!!

Sika is a great product to work with and as I have just started a 10, I will be using Sika to bond all our windows in.
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