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Old 08-26-2017, 12:41 PM
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Default BRS Chute Installation for RV10

For those interested in installing a BRS chute in their RV10, I have some good news. Several builders, including myself, have signed purchase agreements which has gotten the design and engineering phase started. Should see the first kits by the first of the year or before. I'll send updates as the process progresses.

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Old 08-26-2017, 03:19 PM
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Interesting...any approximations on weight of the system?
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:02 PM
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Default BRS Chute for RV10

No. Too soon. They just got the aircraft into their CAD engineering software. Will be a couple of months before we see any details.

Bruce
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:06 PM
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Default Chute

Very interesting. I'll keep an eye on this one. It will be neat to know how this can be done using existing structures in the RV10. I can imagine the weight penalty will be substantial.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:58 AM
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I'm interested as well if the weight and CG stays reasonable
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Old 08-27-2017, 09:29 PM
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I'm interested too! My brother suggested I buy a used Cirrus instead of building the RV10 due to the 'chute. My empennage kit is ordered. Having the BRS chute would be a big plus!
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Old 08-27-2017, 09:47 PM
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I have always been curious as to the reasoning behind the chute. Not to start a primer war but here is a discussion question:

What would be a valid reason to pop the chute?

I'm curious to see what people would consider dire enough to use it...
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Old 08-27-2017, 10:10 PM
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I have always been curious as to the reasoning behind the chute. Not to start a primer war but here is a discussion question:

What would be a valid reason to pop the chute?

I'm curious to see what people would consider dire enough to use it...
Originally, it was included because the Cirrus can't recover from a spin--the ability to recover is a certification requirement, so the FAA allowed the BRS as an alternate means of compliance.

Beyond that, I think it's the tool of last resort any time a pilot gets in over his head. The Cirrus is a very high-performance aircraft, and we all know what happens when you mix that with a pilot who can't stay proficient; think "fork-tailed doctor killer."
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Old 08-28-2017, 07:15 AM
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Default BRS Chute Installation for RV10

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I have always been curious as to the reasoning behind the chute. Not to start a primer war but here is a discussion question:

What would be a valid reason to pop the chute?

I'm curious to see what people would consider dire enough to use it...
Night, over mountains, lost engine with oil on the windscreen, and blue haze in the cabin......

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Old 08-28-2017, 07:25 AM
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Default Not entirely accurate

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Originally, it was included because the Cirrus can't recover from a spin--the ability to recover is a certification requirement, so the FAA allowed the BRS as an alternate means of compliance.

Beyond that, I think it's the tool of last resort any time a pilot gets in over his head. The Cirrus is a very high-performance aircraft, and we all know what happens when you mix that with a pilot who can't stay proficient; think "fork-tailed doctor killer."
I think you can easily find data to refute this statement. I believe the issue was more that the SR-20/22 did not meet the Part 23 recovery guidelines and the CAPS was installed as the AMOC. The DA40XLS with winglets did not meet the spin recovery requirements either, so the winglets were never delivered on these aircraft.

From Part 23 -

A single-engine, normal category airplane must be able to recover from a one-turn spin or a three-second spin, whichever takes longer, in not more than one additional turn after initiation of the first control action for recovery, or demonstrate compliance with the optional spin resistant requirements of this section.

Check out the article from COPA here.
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