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Old 05-05-2008, 09:21 PM
RGaines RGaines is offline
 
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Default Kit #002 Arrived

My wing kit (#002) arrived today in Novato, Ca. My partner and I did the inventory and there are only a couple of minor bits missing. Pretty amazing given the complexity of the shipment. The packaging is amazing. I didn't count the box with 10,000 rivets in it. It will just be a surprise at the end.

Will start on the spars tomorrow.

Rich
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:46 PM
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I decided to use a little different approach. Instead of building the "box" like others have, I decided to put a better muffler on the air intake. Why?...because the biggest offender on any air compressor is the large acoustic impulses caused by the compressor as it takes big bites of air when the compressor piston goes down. This made a 4 db improvement and sounded much better. Probably not as good as a box, but lots easier, and it is still easily transportable and serviceable. My 22 year old son heard the new muffler and easily noticed the difference.

The muffler usually screws on the compressor via 1/2 inch steel nipple (pipe) that is about 3 inches long. It's easy to build an larger muffler from 4 inch pvc pipe and screw it into the 1/2 inch nipple.

There are some other noises comming from the compressor, but the intake is definitly the worst.

If anyone wants, I can post a description of how I made my muffler.
Show us your muffler. Sounds like an easy way to quiet things down a bit.
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:42 PM
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Default uh oh ... primer

Would anyone have an idea of what brand of primer to use? Where to purchase it? Is one coat enough? Do I have color choices? How many gallons might I need for the RV-12?

From what I am reading, the spars and ribs don't need a primer. But I should prime the inside of the wing skins along with "the inside" of just about all of the rest of the frame; seats, panel, cockpit, floor, empennage, fuselage, engine compartment etc ... Correct?

It might be easier to move to Iowa.
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:17 PM
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Would anyone have an idea of what brand of primer to use? Where to purchase it? Is one coat enough? Do I have color choices? How many gallons might I need for the RV-12?

From what I am reading, the spars and ribs don't need a primer. But I should prime the inside of the wing skins along with "the inside" of just about all of the rest of the frame; seats, panel, cockpit, floor, empennage, fuselage, engine compartment etc ... Correct?

It might be easier to move to Iowa.
There seem to be as many opinions about this are there are members of these forums. Van's uses a Sherwin Williams self-etching primer, but the manufacturer advises that the product offers "no significant corrosion protection." At least one forum member reports that the high-corrosion environment in New Zealand eats the Van's primer for lunch.

This forum has alot of the back-and-forth about the various options. Again, it comes down to what you're comfortable with and your own personal cost/benefit analysis. The more surfaces you prime, the more coats of primer you lay down, and the more areas that get top-coated, the more weight you're putting on. And there really isn't a lot of wiggle room with the weight on this craft.
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:17 PM
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"...But I should prime the inside of the wing skins..."
Someone replied that Alclad doesn't require primer, which the wing skins are.
Wouldn't it be easier to have your completed airframe fogged with ACX every couple years?
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:12 PM
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My wing Kit is enroute and should be delivered Monday according ABS Bill of Lading.
I live on the Gulf Coast and will either prime or fog airframe with Corrosion X. I would advise anyone who plans to leave aircraft out of doors near salt water to prime.
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I live in Naples and plan to fog the airframe with Corrosion X, then repeat every 2 years. I have been doing that with my present aircraft and others give good reports on the process. Requires a few small holes in the skin in a few places to fog everything with spray needles. Corrosion X seeps in to the spaces between parts to protect the surface, so I am told. Painting everything would be good but takes time and there is no guarantee especially if you miss a few spots.
BTW, I think there are at least 3 wing kits on the ABF shipment coming to Florida. Mine is due here Friday. Working on a wing sling now.
Bart
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:48 PM
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Default Hit by a freight train ...

Just got a call from ABF Freight. My wings arrive tomorrow, Thursday, and the freight cost is $558.84 ... OUCH! I wasn't expecting it to be that much ... the things I'll do and the money I'll spend to have my OWN light sport aircraft.

By the way, I got my B & C airspace endorsement yesterday. I'm kind of pleased about that. Now instead of flying to North Palm Beach Regional Airport, I can fly directly into Palm Beach International. How sweet it is!

Since my tool kit hasn't arrived yet, all I can do is take inventory ... and study the plans. That's fine with me.

At least I know there are others in the country that are as crazy as I am. As of today, about 5702 others ... and they're all flying!
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Old 05-07-2008, 01:31 PM
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Default shipping/crating

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Just got a call from ABF Freight. My wings arrive tomorrow, Thursday, and the freight cost is $558.84 ... OUCH! I wasn't expecting it to be that much ... the things I'll do and the money I'll spend to have my OWN light sport aircraft.

By the way, I got my B & C airspace endorsement yesterday. I'm kind of pleased about that. Now instead of flying to North Palm Beach Regional Airport, I can fly directly into Palm Beach International. How sweet it is!

Since my tool kit hasn't arrived yet, all I can do is take inventory ... and study the plans. That's fine with me.

At least I know there are others in the country that are as crazy as I am. As of today, about 5702 others ... and they're all flying!
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Jerry- when you receive the kit, please post details about the size/weight of the crate(s)/packaging. I was also waiting to hear about freight cost from someone in the eastern half of the US- much more than I would have anticipated! Thought running through my mind is 5 different subkits at roughly $500 each for freight (plus crating)!! Double ouch! Certainly more than the website predicts for crating/shipping of other kits but then fuel costs have gone up significantly.
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:01 PM
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Default Wing Kit arrival notification

Just heard from ABF that my wing kit will be delivered tomorrow here in Naples, FL between 10:00 and 2:00 (1400 ROTC time). I had suspected that other kits would be on the same truck with delivery destinations in Florida since there at least two other guys down this way with similar delivery times. Anybody else have one coming tomorrow?
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:38 PM
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Default Primer

Speak to the folks at Stewart Systems, I started with the etch, alodine, prime with epoxy but it adds a lot of time and you really need a good, well ventilated shop. The epoxy primer is tough but it's not very friendly to work with. I went to the stewart systems product and it's fairly tough, seals the metal and you can work in your basement with it. If the part doesn't have alclad then I go through the trouble of alodine for added corrosion protection. http://www.stewartsystems.aero/products.aspx?cid=2

Make sure your box isn't damaged, mine was, thanks Fedex, and if you don't make the claim promptly you eat the damage! If it happens again to me, I'll refuse shipment unless I know you I;m ready to unload and inventory.
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