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01-20-2019, 03:10 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Québec, Canada
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Tools required for -12iS for previous RV builder
So I sold my RV-9A kit a couple of years ago but kept all of the tools. Was basically the Avery RV toolkit + a few addons : reamers, bigger back riveting plate, Cleaveland Main Squeeze, 3 yokes.
-12iS emp kit is being prepared @ Vans as I type this (order sent on Dec 31st) and I'm prepping the shop for its arrival.
Bought a rivet puller (went with the Milwaukee battery powered one) and now wondering if my current toolkit is enough.
I assume :
-I won't need the rivet gun & bucking bars
-I won't need my DRDT-2
So - for any builder who did a -7/8/9/10 before doing a -12... did you need to buy anything else beside the rivet puller?
Thanks
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Philippe Marseille
RV-9A Kit Emp done, wings @50% - SOLD
RV-12iS@Empennage
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01-20-2019, 04:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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I had to buy a 120 degree #30 countersink. I didn't have that from previous kits.
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01-20-2019, 04:44 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 725
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I use this close quarter rivet pulling wedge all the time on my -12, but it wasn’t necessary (or available) when I built my 9A. In the instructions, Van's tells you how to make a similar tool from AEX wedge, so this tool isn't 100% necessary, but I've found it very nice to have.
http://www.cleavelandtool.com/Close-.../#.XET3XS3MxE4
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Mark
RV-12iS Fuselage
RV-9A Project: Sold
VAF donation made for 2019
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01-20-2019, 05:23 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Québec, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by STEVEM
I had to buy a 120 degree #30 countersink. I didn't have that from previous kits.
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Ok, I'll double check the tool list they have with my inventory then. Was trying to avoid this
Quote:
Originally Posted by rv9builder
I use this close quarter rivet pulling wedge all the time on my -12, but it wasn’t necessary (or available) when I built my 9A. In the instructions, Van's tells you how to make a similar tool from AEX wedge, so this tool isn't 100% necessary, but I've found it very nice to have.
http://www.cleavelandtool.com/Close-.../#.XET3XS3MxE4
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Ok, that's for pulling the stem at a angle while still having a flat head? Skimming the preview plans, it looks like it's the first thing they have you do! Good to know - this thing looks better 
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Philippe Marseille
RV-9A Kit Emp done, wings @50% - SOLD
RV-12iS@Empennage
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01-20-2019, 05:34 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Windsor, California
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A big magnet on a stick to pick up all of those errant pop rivet mandrels rolling around on the floor. 
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David Heal - Windsor, CA (near Santa Rosa)
EAA #23982 (circa 1965) - EAA Technical Counselor and Flight Advisor; CFI - A&I
RV-12 E-LSA #120496 (SV w/ AP and ADS-B) - N124DH flying since March 2014 - 725+ hours (as of Jan 2019)! 
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01-20-2019, 05:39 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Québec, Canada
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Originally Posted by DHeal
A big magnet on a stick to pick up all of those errant pop rivet mandrels rolling around on the floor. 
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lol
But seriously, just started comparing toolkits.. and vans states in the RV-12 plan that we need 350 1/8in clecos... !!! didn't realize those weren't 3/32 almost everywhere like my -9A!
Looks like an inventory is in order!
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Philippe Marseille
RV-9A Kit Emp done, wings @50% - SOLD
RV-12iS@Empennage
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01-20-2019, 05:41 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Irvine, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by llavalle
Ok, that's for pulling the stem at a angle while still having a flat head? Skimming the preview plans, it looks like it's the first thing they have you do! Good to know - this thing looks better 
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Yes, it's for pulling the stem at an angle. I bought this tool before my -12 emp kit arrived, so I've never used the tool made from AEX wedge. Perhaps someone else can tell you which one works better.
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Mark
RV-12iS Fuselage
RV-9A Project: Sold
VAF donation made for 2019
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01-21-2019, 06:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Québec, Canada
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Alright so I did the inventory. Here's what Vans lists that I didn't have in my Avery kit - in case anyone needs it :
-1 Extra short flush head rivet set (1/8in thick). I had one, they say you need 2
-Couple of drill bits : #3,#11,#16,#20,#43,#36,#52,1/4in,5/16in,Q or 11/32in, 3/8in
-120deg machine countersink with #30 pilot hole as stated above <--for some reasons I had bought it separately, not sure why, it was still new with wax on it
-Bunch of taps (won't list them - I had a tap set with most of them)
-#30 (copper) clecos --> Vans lists 350 of them, had 100 of them
Everything else I had.
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Philippe Marseille
RV-9A Kit Emp done, wings @50% - SOLD
RV-12iS@Empennage
Construction Web Cam
Last edited by llavalle : 01-21-2019 at 08:21 PM.
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01-22-2019, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Mill Creek, WA
Posts: 591
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My list
I've built an -8 and -3B before and my list of things important for the -12iS are: - The Avery or Cleaveland close-quarter rivet guide mentioned above
- A good pneumatic or electric puller as mentioned above (I have both but really like the Milwaukee electric puller!)
- A pneumatic squeezer
- 120° 1/8 dimple dies (I plan to use c/s rivets in a few places such as the wing leading edge.
I'm working on my build site and should have it up in another week or two and have a page just for tools where I'll comment on these items.
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Randy Lervold
RV-12iS, empennage/tailcone complete, wings currently, fuse on order
RV-3B, first flight 2007 - sold
RV-8, first flight 2001 - sold
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