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Old 01-24-2013, 09:52 PM
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Default RV-12 vs Zenith CH 650

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Several of us from our EAA group are thinking of starting a group build with either an RV-12 or Zenith CH 650.
The CH650 seems to be about $10,00 less, and the payload and cabin width seemed a little better, if we calculated things correctly.
Anyone care to offer some words of wisdom?
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:45 PM
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Hope this thread is ok...
Several of us from our EAA group are thinking of starting a group build with either an RV-12 or Zenith CH 650.
The CH650 seems to be about $10,00 less, and the payload and cabin width seemed a little better, if we calculated things correctly.
Anyone care to offer some words of wisdom?
It has been discussed in the past.

A couple of old threads found using search are HERE and HERE
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:11 AM
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A very experienced RV builder friend was tasked with completing that Zenith model. I went and looked at a lot of the details of its design and construction. Now - I am no expert, having just built one RV12. But I tell you - go take a veeeeeery close look at the Zenith. Compared to an RV, it is the difference between building a car and a go-kart. I can't print here what he has to say about the plane! I had considered one and am SO glad I built the -12.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:52 AM
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Not to mention that no wings have fallen off RV12's !
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:02 PM
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Not yet that we know of, but sooner or later, someone will depart with the spar pins laying on the floorboards, and the wings WILL come off.
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Old 01-25-2013, 12:49 PM
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I agree with Bill H. The RV is a far superior kit and finished aircraft. Furthermore, you'll actually have more value in the RV12 if you ever want to sell it.
Strictly my opinion.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:15 PM
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Not yet that we know of, but sooner or later, someone will depart with the spar pins laying on the floorboards, and the wings WILL come off.
This should not be possible unless they modify the original design, which disables the starter for the engine if both pins are not properly installed.
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:34 PM
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.... Compared to an RV, it is the difference between building a car and a go-kart...
Depending on where and how Iím driving, I might prefer the go-car. On some courses Iíve see shifter carts completely obliterate fully prepped cars.

It all comes down to your mission.

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Not to mention that no wings have fallen off RV12's !
Funny thing, no wings have fallen of a CH650 either.

That said, I have seen 601 builders sell their planes to build an RV but Iím yet to see someone sell their RV to build a Zenair.
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Old 01-25-2013, 03:32 PM
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Bill R. - true, it does depend on the mission. But the original post seemed to be about a possible $10,000 difference as the motivator, spread amongst several people. With several people involved, I imagine the consensus will be to build a car, not to get a go-cart instead that is 7/8ths the price of the car. Now, If I wanted a go-kart kind of plane, There are a bunch of other choices than either the 650 or -12, at substantially more than a 10K$ difference! Sonex comes to mind. The other posts referenced above are also very good info.
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Old 01-25-2013, 07:20 PM
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Default Thanks for sharing your experience and thoughts

You all made some valid points to consider.
I appreciate your help.
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