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Old 08-10-2018, 07:56 PM is offline
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Because of the comments about the Sly Tech starters, I just ordered the IO390 engine from van's. I specifically ask if I could have a B&C starter installed instead of the SkyTech. The answer was yes. I was to call B&C order the starter and send it to Lycoming and they would install the starter.

I called B&C and was told that the B&C will not fit the Horizontal Fuel Flow application. So I could not exchange the two starters. They do not make one that will fit.

I thought I would share this information with the group.
Now I do not know about the Sky Tech 149NL. That might be a possibility.

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Old 08-10-2018, 08:51 PM
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Many of us have installed the 149NL with Horizontal injection with no problem and I personally like it better than the lightweight. Spins nicely.
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by EXflyer View Post
After reading all the comments will have to agree with Scott. One thing that none of the commenters mention is checking wiring from battery to starter and starter to ground for heat. That was one thing I would do in trouble shooting a problem like this for many electrical problems. The other thing is check for voltage drop at each wire where it connects to a terminal coming from or going to the starter. One bad wire connection to a connector can cause problems but check good if not done at the wire itself.
Gotta agree with this and Scottís post as well. I was taught long ago how to put a voltmeter in parallel with a cranking circuit to indirectly measure the resistance on both the ground side and positive side. Donít pull out the CC tool until you know the wiring, solenoids, etc is not the problem.
The Odyssey battery problems youíve had are much different than what Iíve seen, Iíve had no problems at all with them, even recovered one that sat dead for a month.

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Old 08-12-2018, 08:33 AM
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Agreement from me too however I did stress this to the original poster, via a phone call - with most electrical ‘issues’ you need to drill down to the basics first - it was a lesson I learned with an aircraft way back in 1997
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Old 08-12-2018, 10:18 AM
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So the NL starter apperears to cost the same and only weight 1 extra pound over the light weight one. Maybe this is a worthy modification during the engine ordering.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Av8rRob View Post
So the NL starter apperears to cost the same and only weight 1 extra pound over the light weight one. Maybe this is a worthy modification during the engine ordering.
My Thunderbolt engine is being built now. I emailed Jeff and asked him to switch - he was happy to do so. Not disagreeing in any way with the value/importance of doing all the appropriate troubleshooting, but I like the idea of "tried and true".
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:04 PM
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I have had he same experience. The NL starter cranks tons better than the xlt on the 540 and, Iím sure, on other models, especially with high compression.
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Old 08-12-2018, 09:57 PM
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One of the "secrets" to the NL starter is no secret at all... It has a significant mechanical advantage due to its massive gear reduction. I'm not sure any other starter bests the reduction of the
NL. Hard to beat good old fashioned leverage!
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