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Old 08-08-2018, 02:43 PM
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That is correct. Further evidence is that the "builder" is "Experimental Aircraft Assn Inc".
If it were ELSA, "Vans Aircraft Inc" would be listed as the builder.
Unless someone just made a mistake. Mine is E-LSA with the name of the builder listed as the manufacturer. I would assume, though, that today DARs -- and especially the DAR in this case -- would know better.
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Old 08-08-2018, 02:53 PM
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Unless someone just made a mistake. Mine is E-LSA with the name of the builder listed as the manufacturer. I would assume, though, that today DARs -- and especially the DAR in this case -- would know better.
No mistake. The EAA "One Week Wonder" RV-12 is indeed certificated as amateur-built.
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Old 08-08-2018, 02:59 PM
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Unless someone just made a mistake. Mine is E-LSA with the name of the builder listed as the manufacturer. I would assume, though, that today DARs -- and especially the DAR in this case -- would know better.
Yep, Someone made a mistake. Your registration/certification is in error.

"For kit built experimental light-sport aircraft, the kit manufacturer shall be listed as the manufacturer."
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Old 08-08-2018, 03:07 PM
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Not surprising really....

The U.S. registration database contains records for at least 10 or so Experimental Amateur Built RV's of a variety of different models where Van's Aircraft Inc. is listed as the builder , so I imagine the error can happen in both directions.
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Old 08-08-2018, 03:30 PM
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Yep, Someone made a mistake. Your registration/certification is in error.

"For kit built experimental light-sport aircraft, the kit manufacturer shall be listed as the manufacturer."
Yes, that was my point... DARs make mistakes sometimes. Except for Mel, of course.
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:14 PM
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DARs make mistakes sometimes. Except for Mel, of course.
And Joe!!
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:19 PM
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I remember once, Joe & I thought we had made a mistake, but we were wrong!
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Old 08-08-2018, 06:52 PM
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no mistake! During the plane's first flight, I confirmed with a Van's staffer that it is indeed E-AB. I thought for sure it would be E-LSA .. it certainly could be.. its the same model/design as an approved S-LSA. I actually wondered if it would be S-LSA because the build was supervised by "the factory".

So because it is E-AB, the Mfg would be EAA.

The real question is why isn't it E-LSA...and for that, I have no idea...
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:37 PM
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Just a guess, but could it be that maybe the kit is not yet certified?

Has Vans shipped final kits for the new model?
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Old 08-09-2018, 12:12 AM
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Just a guess, but could it be that maybe the kit is not yet certified?

Has Vans shipped final kits for the new model?
The RV-12iST that was on display at Vanís booth is the first certified S-LSA
example so the 12iS is now eligible for certification as an E-LSA, but the EAA chose to do E-AB.
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