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Old 07-19-2016, 12:42 AM
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Default Slow cranking speed

Hi

I would appreciate some views here for a potential cause.

Some background:

Purchased a RV9a last year with 555 hours on. 0320 carb engine.
No problem starting.
Had PIO in Jan which resulted in a nose over and substantial damage. (Beautifully repaired now)
The engine was removed and tested and fitted back to the plane.

The only problem that I have with it is that the first start of the day it is a struggle to start.
The one thing that I noticed is that the engine cranks over very slow. Almost like the battery is nearly flat. It has a new battery fitted.

Before I got it back the Company that fixed it said that my battery was on the way out and wanted to fit a new one which they did.

It has one magneto and one e-mag. My understanding is that if the power from the battery is too low then the e-mag turns itself off which means its trying to start only on the one magneto.
It sounds like it has a bit of spark and wants to fire but just does not catch.
Eventually it will start after about 8 or 10 attempts and then it starts ok for the rest of the day.

The engine has new rings and bearings but I doubt it has increased compression to such an extent to as cause such slow cranking.

Battery mounted on the firewall.

I don't think my old battery was on the way out. I think that after the re-installation something changed which caused the slow cranking and they assumed it was a weak battery. Battery shows good strength on the EMS.

On start I only have fuel pump switch on and Dynons come on with master.

Will check that all cables are tightly fastened and good earths.

Would really appreciate some views from those with more technical knowledge than me please.
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Old 07-19-2016, 03:41 AM
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I had the same issue with my -6. Replace the starter solenoid. They are prone to pitting on the contacts and will cause slow cranking.
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Old 07-19-2016, 06:23 AM
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Try cleaning and tightening all power and ground connections from the battery to the starter. That fixed the slow cranking issue I had on our aircraft.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:48 AM
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After experiencing what appeared to be a very weak battery, I found the battery ground strap attach point to the airframe to be extremely loose. I torqued the bolt down and the slow, weak cranking hasn't happened again.
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Old 07-19-2016, 08:41 AM
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My -9A had starting troubles that were eventually traced to bad crimps on the supplied heavy wires. As others have said, check those connections. Put them in a vice and pull hard.
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Old 07-19-2016, 10:25 AM
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I onced fixed a weak starting issue by replacing the engine to airframe ground strap.
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Old 07-19-2016, 10:33 AM
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Previous replies have pretty much covered the common areas to look at.

Keep in mind that an electrical circuit is like a circle-------whatever comes out of the battery must get back to the battery. A small amount of electrical energy gets used/converted to heat, but most will need a good solid supply side path, and return path.

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Old 07-25-2016, 11:57 PM
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Thanks guys. Will check all wires this weekend.
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Old 07-26-2016, 12:24 AM
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Check the wires and the whole system the easy way. Put a DC volt meter on the battery negative post and the positive lead on the engine case. When cranking you want to see less than .1~.2 volts, if more than that start moving the positive lead back towards the battery one connection at a time until you find the
what's developing the voltage.
Check the positive side the same way, measure between the positive battery post and the starter terminal. This side typically has more connections plus a couple of relays so let's give it .3 volts or so.
As a previous post mentioned, a good chance you'll find the starter relay generating a lot of voltage drop.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:18 AM
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Sky Tec has a pretty good troubleshooting diagram that backs up what has already been said...... just in pictures. I like pictures.
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