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Old 03-28-2010, 01:24 PM
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... removing the rivets is not necessary. You just haven't found the right contortion/position of the p-rod tube.
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Old 03-28-2010, 01:25 PM
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Bob,

Do what you want but if that rod is made per the plans, it will go in.... Hundreds before you have gotten it in. If you try to rivet that end on while it is installed, you are in for a real treat!!!

I wish I could remember exactly how I did it. I had mine in and out a few times.
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Old 03-28-2010, 02:34 PM
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Brantel and Mel,

Please elaborate on the diffuculty in re-riveting one end of the p tube in place. Since these are blind rivets it would seem that one could just rotate the tube and put the rivets back in from the top position. of course getting the old rivets out could be the problem. Others have suggested the right "contortion" of the tube, but the reality is that the length of the tube (threaded tip to threaded tip) is a little more than the distance from the 705 to 707 bulkhead, meaning, until it goes thru the hole in the 707 its not going to drop into the tunnel. The only contortion that would do it is to bend (or hopefully "flex") the tube enough to get it thru the hole. If this is possible without a permanent bow in the tube I will indeed be suprised. However, I have already been suprised once when the ##!&# thing didn't fit in the first place.
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Old 03-28-2010, 02:40 PM
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From my standpoint, I don't remember using pulled rivets for this application. I remembered them being solid rivets.
Regardless, I would continue to search for the problem because, even though this has always been a tight fit, thousands of RV have been built without having to build the pushrod in place.
I'll go out and look at the plans later today and see if I can see the problem.
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Old 03-28-2010, 03:08 PM
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We just put in a little relief on the top of the hole in that rear bulkhead (baggage compartment bulkhead, whatever number it is).

I didn't like "flexing" the pushrod, and there's plenty of "meat" on that bulkhead around the opening, so no issues with edge clearances anywhere. It only took a little bit of sanding the top of the opening to "doghouse" it.
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Old 03-28-2010, 03:13 PM
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....meaning, until it goes thru the hole in the 707 its not going to drop into the tunnel.
You lost me here. My plans show no hole in 707. 707 is the bulkhead behind the baggage bulkhead (706).

I'm sure you have checked and rechecked you dimensions over and over, but I can't re-iterate enough that it has been done many, many, many times in the past.

Do you have an EAA tech counselor close that could verify the problem. It's SO very easy to overlook something when you are so close to the project.
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I took off the removable ends, protected it all
with shop rags and 'flexed' it in.
It isn't made of glass.
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Old 03-28-2010, 03:16 PM
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The pushrod should not have to be flexed at all.
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As others have said, it will go in without doing major surgery. Keep fiddling with the up/down & left/right angle and as of a sudden you'll wonder what the problem was.

I swore mine wouldn't fit but after I got it in the first time, I had no problem removing and re-installing later. In fact, I didn't like the number of threads I had engaged in the rod ends, so I made another about 3/8" longer and got it in.
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Old 03-28-2010, 04:21 PM
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Thanks guys. I do have some resources at nearby Spruce Creek including an EAA tech and others that are building/flying RVs. I think before I bend, spindle, or mutilate my tube I will see if I can get more input. I have triple checked the plans vs length (45-15/16" tube length) and fiddled with it for several hours. It ain't going without considerable grinding or flexing. Maybe I got "shorted" on my QB fuselage and what I need is a plane stretcher.
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