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Old 05-03-2017, 12:34 PM
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Default Vans Parts Dept -- 1st call of shame

Well, first call of shame today to VANS parts department .. mis-drilled the forward spar #30 instead of #40 .. parts were only $50-$70 but shipping .. OUCH!
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:38 PM
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Next time, ask here first if anyone near you just happens to be putting in a large order. You can combine them to cut shipping costs. Not real likely but sometimes you get lucky.
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:59 PM
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Another reason to post here is that you may not have needed to order new parts. In this case, assuming you had edge distance and so on, you could have just used AD4 rivets instead of AD3 and carried on. Only close inspection would have revealed your mistake, but I suspect everyone but an RV supernerd would not notice.

Now, that isn't a blanket statement as sometimes there may be a structural reason to use the smaller rivet/bolt etc. I'm just saying it doesn't hurt to ask first...
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Old 05-03-2017, 01:34 PM
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Bill, sorry my friend, it won't be your last! No shame in it, by the way!
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Old 05-03-2017, 02:21 PM
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....In this case, assuming you had edge distance and so on, you could have just used AD4 rivets instead of AD3 and carried on...
Or as a refinement of that, used NAS1097 AD4 flathead rivets. They have the same head as a -3 flathead rivet but the -4 body. From the outside, they'd look the same.

Edit -- Please see post #9; I think he's right.

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Old 05-03-2017, 02:28 PM
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I'm lucky to be based at Aurora. I take my Walk of Shame right up to the counter, they know my name. It does not stop after the build much either. Brake pads, because I taxi with too much toe pressure, baffle parts because I missed the oil cooler reinforcement mod, a new hat because you can't taxi with your head hanging out the side!
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Old 05-03-2017, 02:36 PM
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Well, first call of shame today to VANS parts department .. mis-drilled the forward spar #30 instead of #40 .. parts were only $50-$70 but shipping .. OUCH!
I am curious. What spar was this?

I did the same thing to the Horiz Stab spar. I misread the plans and drilled some of the spar to spar cap holes #30. I ended up having a new spar shipped to someone who was getting a quickbuild near me. He was gracious enough to hold it for me, and they did not charge additional as it just fit in the back of the same truck.

Same deal: $120 shipping in my case for a $40 part.
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Old 05-03-2017, 03:43 PM
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Well, first call of shame today to VANS parts department .. mis-drilled the forward spar #30 instead of #40 .. parts were only $50-$70 but shipping .. OUCH!
The practical result is an increasing pile of scrapped parts for a while, then as your skills improve and you begin make other things from them, the pile gets smaller until you have to order actual raw material! This may not happen on the 14 where all the pieces are actually designed and available, but it is real on a 7.
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Or as a refinement of that, used NAS1097 AD4 flathead rivets. They have the same head as a -3 flathead rivet but the -4 body. From the outside, they'd look the same.

Dave
I think it's not recommended to use these "oops" rivets for a whole continuous row.
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Old 05-04-2017, 08:06 AM
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I misread the plans and drilled some of the spar to spar cap holes #30.
That's exactly what I did, which means the skin would have to have #30's and my OCD wouldn't let me live with it so .. new parts ordered!
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