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View Poll Results: How long should Vans support a kit?
3-5 Years 2 2.02%
5-10 Years 5 5.05%
10-20 Years 8 8.08%
More than 20 Years 30 30.30%
Until kit sales decline 23 23.23%
I never thought about it when I bought my kit 31 31.31%
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:03 AM
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Default How long should Vans support a kit?

Time gives way to advances in technology, machinery, methods, and materials. New kits become easier to build and maintain and designs simplified.

How long is "long enough" to maintain parts and kits?

When you bought your kit, what was your expectation?
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:15 AM
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Another option would be:

x years after a subsequent model is introduced

i.e. 5 years for the RV-4 after the RV-8 shipped.

Understanding that there will be quire a bit of emotion around that discussion with no correct answer. But I think that 20+ years is more than fare.

I also don't believe that will impact RV-4 and RV-6 pricing. The price hits have already occurred many years ago.
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:21 AM
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Without fucusing on the exact numbers I would say that the timeframe should start from the day no new customers are accepted for that modell.

Then I think it is a good measure to have a "full" support period and then a "limited" period after that, similar to how it is done now.
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:25 AM
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But I think that 20+ years is more than fare.
@rleffler cast your vote!
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:41 AM
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Between this poll and the other thread I'm worried we are getting ourselves all worked up over something that is honestly beyond our control.

Vans is in business to make a profit. They are providing notice that there is a change that may impact some % of clients. Even so, they still were pledging to continue to support these models, but warning that there may be cost increases or longer lead times. (Most likely just passing on increased production costs for low volume parts).

Honestly even if everyone voted +20 years, Vans has FAR exceeded support for the kits they are impacting. (Support will continue, just at a potential higher cost / longer lead time)
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1971 RV-3 (46 years)
1980 RV-4 (37 years)
1986 RV-6 (31 years)
I think I understand why these threads were being locked the other day.
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I did before I posted my comment
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Vans is in business to make a profit.
^^^ this x 1000

The poll is just for fun and to see what people expected. I have a hunch how the results will look if people are honest with themselves
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Between this poll and the other thread I'm worried we are getting ourselves all worked up over something that is honestly beyond our control.
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Hard to say. They probably already go well past the point where less customer oriented companies might have withdrawn support for their oldest designs based on purely economic grounds. The fact that Vans will still produce old parts to order, even though you (quite reasonably) will have to pay more for them and may have to wait a while, is highly commendable.
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Poll is bad because it uses a generic term - "support" - which means different things to different people.

Does support mean "provides individual kits"?
Does support mean "provides spare parts"?
Does support mean "answers questions about the design for 3rd/4th/5th owners?"
Does support mean "provides service bulletin notices and associated repair kits when applicable?"

...and incidentally, Van's announcement would seem to imply only a time/cost change without change to any of the above listed items.

Lots of hand-wringing going on here lately.
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