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Old 12-21-2017, 08:01 PM
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I decided to spend more money and bought Michelin Aviators and the fancy tube. So I will see what money will buy. After all you can't take it with you.

Also, I did not want to add weight nor mess with the wheel pants. I just want to fly.

Report to follow. I did have significant left gear shimmy during taxi. Maybe that had something to do with the flat? Hmmmm... but I don't feel the shimmy when landing.
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Old 09-28-2018, 10:05 AM
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I decided to spend more money and bought Michelin Aviators and the fancy tube...Report to follow.
How do you like them?

I hear what everybody is saying about Monster Retreads wearing longer but the weight penalty seems excessive. Has anybody weighed these? Any report on the actual weight difference between say, a stock Vans tire? I got 500 hours out of Van's tires so I can't complain about that. Twice actually - looking for my 3rd set of tires at 1000 hours on the Hobbs.
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Old 09-28-2018, 10:54 AM
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How do you like them?

I hear what everybody is saying about Monster Retreads wearing longer but the weight penalty seems excessive. Has anybody weighed these? Any report on the actual weight difference between say, a stock Vans tire? I got 500 hours out of Van's tires so I can't complain about that. Twice actually - looking for my 3rd set of tires at 1000 hours on the Hobbs.
They make a different retread that isn't as thick of a tread and it presumably weighs less.

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Old 09-28-2018, 11:40 AM
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We install, true, and balance a lot of tires, 12 weekly, and must say most of
the mains are the Desser retreads. The most popular and trouble free being
the Elite series. They are usually pretty true and close in balance. They represent
a considerable cost savings at purchase, and usually last about two times as
long. One would think that an aircraft tire (name brands) would be manufactured
to the highest standards possible. Unfortunately this is not the case! It appears
the opposite is the norm, and all the extra cost buys you nothing. The Desser
Elite recaps are built up on top of the line casings, and are not only thicker but a
much harder rubber compound, that has far superior wear resistance as well.
The difference in weight between the original Vans tire (Aero Classic) and the
Desser Elite is 1.5lb. and a very small price to pay for all advantages they offer.
We like, use, and highly recommend this product. Thanks, Allan...
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Old 09-28-2018, 02:00 PM
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My experience with Monster retreads leads me to not use them again.

My OEM Airhawk tires and tubes from Vans were flown for 727 hrs. and made 501 landings over a 6 year period. Then I installed Monster retreads with Leakguard tubes which were flown for 552 hrs. and made 338 landings over a 5 1/2 year period. I could have lived with that except that the Leakguard tubes required air every 2 to 3 weeks, having dropped by 5 - 10 psi. The treads on the Monster retreads also developed deep cracks between the treads that Desser wouldn't even discuss with me. That less than stellar customer service and the leaky tubes had me check other alternatives.

On a King Air that I had been flying, we always got better service from Goodyear rather than from Michelin tires. So, with the discounts offered at Oshkosh and my willingness to pay up a little more for better products, I purchased Goodyear Flight Special II tires and Michelin Airstop tubes. These have been in service for 121 hrs. and 83 landings over the past 14 months and I have not been disappointed. In checking the air pressure every 2 months or so, they have yet to decrease more than 2 or 3 psi. I fill them to 50 psi. There have been no balance issues or shimmy problems with them.

My average flight time between landings of about 1.5 hrs. reflects the fact that I fly cross-country almost exclusively with virtually no traffic pattern touch-and-go sessions.
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Old 09-28-2018, 03:37 PM
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Jose from Desser just told me on the phone that they have *-NO-* 5.00-5 (or even 6.00-6) retreads in stock, and they don't expect any for the next 6-8 weeks! This includes both Monsters and Elites. Something about problems getting casings in these sizes to keep up with demand. They did offer a ~15% discount over their normal prices for new tires though since I had already placed an order for retreads and they can't fill the order anytime soon.
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Old 09-28-2018, 04:59 PM
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If you happen to be local to Desser and have a set of worn tires around, they will recap yours pretty quickly.
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Old 09-29-2018, 10:48 AM
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1. MOST recommend changing the tubes with tires. In practice, my tubes have been replaced once in almost 3,000 hours over 17.5-years. I use Michelin Airstop tubes. Original tubes needed air added every 30-days. Michelin Airstop tubes get air every year.

2. IMHO, the AirStop tubes are worth the money.

3. Wheel balancer? After almost 3,000 hours and 17.5 years, I have never used one on an aircraft tire / wheel. I have used Wilkerson retreads and or new Goodyear tires. Have a set of Dresser retreads on the shelf.
Gary,

I was reviewing this thread as its nearly time for another set of tires on my RV-8. I noticed I never acknowledged and thanked you for your response to my post. I sincerely value your experience and opinion and usually take the time to read all your posts here on The VAF knowledge data base.
Ive learned so much since that question. The learning never stops.

To you and all those like you, Thank you for taking the time to share your experience and knowledge. Its sincerely appreciated.
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Old 11-15-2018, 04:57 PM
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I'm also happy with my Monster Retreads. I had Desser send the tires along with new Michelin AirStop tubes directly to AntiSplatAero who I had my Cleveland wheels sent to.

ASA re-machined the wheels, installed their sealed bearings, mounted and balanced the Desser tires and tubes, and sent them back to me with a 24-hour turn around. THAT is great service. Plus, no more messy repacking of the bearings.
PIREP from me.... After 3 1/2 years of normal wear & tear on my Desser Monster retreads, it was time to replace them. There were still good treads remaining on the tires on the inboard sides. I was pleased overall with their performance. But on the downside, the Monster retreads are VERY much heavier than standard tires, and were significantly out of balance...requiring quite a few weights on the wheel. Those made a heavy wheel even heavier. I replaced them with Goodyear Flight Special II tires from aircraft spruce for only $99 each.... They required no balancing weights at all.

Kudos to AntiSplat for their sealed bearing inserts on the main wheels, and to Michelin for their GREAT Airstop tubes. I usually only needed to top off the tire pressures one or two times a year with the Airstops.
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