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Old 01-01-2010, 08:22 AM
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Default HS-405 to HS-702 Flange Edge Distance

It looks like this has come up before, but I guess I just need to be reassured since I'm new at this.

While drilling the inboard (non-prepunched) section of the HS-702 front spar flange to the HS-801PP skin, I came upon a problem with the last hole, which goes through the 801, then the 702, then the top of the HS-405 flange. As you can see from the photos below, there isn't sufficient minimum edge distance on the 405 flange.

Per the plans, I pushed the 702 tightly against the front flange of the 405, and even drew a centerline on the 702 to make sure those distances were acceptable. But since the position of that top hole is set by the 801PP skin and the pre-formed 405, I don't think there's any way NOT to end up with this.

It looks like RVG8tor contacted Van's about this very problem and they said it was okay, since the "HS-405 rib flange has been slightly short ever since the first kit RV-4." I'm tempted to call myself unless the consensus from you guys is, "build on."

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Old 01-01-2010, 08:54 AM
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Default Not a problem!

Build-on!...(Added words to make this stupid system work)
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:19 AM
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Default My standard practice is...

Whenever given the option between dimpling and machine countersinking, always dimple. Dimpling will almost always give a slightly stronger and more consistent joint.
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I'm not sure there's ever been an RV built without this problem... Don't worry about it!
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Old 01-01-2010, 01:22 PM
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Thanks for the input, guys. I'm moving on ...
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Old 01-01-2010, 02:22 PM
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I'm not sure there's ever been an RV built without this problem...
Oh, there's been Lots of them. You seem to forget, when we built, we didn't get any holes. We put them where we wanted them.
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Hope you donīt mind if I steal this thread, sorry, but
I was never sure about what to do with that particular rivet,
and others that also go through 3 parts. What is the best way
to go?

a- Dimple all three parts.

b- Machine countersink the skin and leave the rest alone.

c- Machine countersink one of the underlying parts(rib?) and dimple
the others.

Thanks in advance for the advice.

oceanbird

I have been wondering about this also. I have been dimpling the top skin and countersinking the second ply and nothing in the third. Any comments from the more experienced builders?

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