Garage Guy
Well Known Member
There has been discussion about what is required to equip an experimental aircraft for IFR flight. On the topic of transponder and altimeter checks, the question has been answered pretty well in these threads:
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=36016
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=34369
However, I haven't yet seen an authoritative answer on what is required for an IFR GPS installation. I'm facing this question now in our RV-6 and I would like to know what are current best practices in the experimental community on this topic.
Here's what I think I have figured out so far, in the context of our Apollo GX60 IFR GPS/COMM, followed by questions I would really like to find the answer to!
1. The 2008 AIM 1-1-19-d says that conducting any GPS operation under IFR requires:
... that the equipment meet TSO-C129,
... the installation be done in accordance with Advisory Circular AC 20-138,
... "The GPS operation must be conducted in accordance with the FAA-approved aircraft flight manual or flight manual supplement."
2. The GX60 is a TSO-C129a, class A1 GPS, so the TSO requirement is met. (We also have all the remote CDI, annunciators, etc. that are required.)
3. Advisory Circular AC 20-138A (linked here), supersedes 20-138. One change in the new version is that a GPS installation can now be considered a minor alteration, if manufacturer's instructions are followed (used to require a STC, for aircraft that have a TC). (See paragraph 8.)
4. AC 20-138A also, in paragraphs 22 and 23, lists ground and flight tests. These seem like the sort of thing you would actually want to have done before launching into the clouds.
5. The GX60 installation manual says: "This article may be installed only if further evaluation by the applicant documents an acceptable installation and is approved by the Administrator. Source: FAA TSO-C129a, GSO-C37d, TSO-C38d, and TSO-C128."
6. Apollo (aka II Morrow aka UPS aka Garmin) provide an editable sample AFM supplement (in their "STC kit", linked here) to customize to your GX60 installation. The front page has blanks for FAA signature (name, title, office).
So here are my questions:
A. Since STC's and 337's don't apply to experimental aircraft, a lot of AC 20-138A is not directly applicable. Is this a correct assumption?
B. However the ground and flight tests at least seem like a good idea. Are these typically documented in an experimental IFR GPS installation, and if so what form does the documentation take?
C. Offhand I don't see a way that experimentals are exempt from the requirement of an AFM supplement. Am I missing something? It would be pretty easy to create one for our GX60 installation, starting with the sample, but I don't know about the feasibility of getting an FAA signature on it. Anybody actually done that, or can give me a black-and-white argument for why it's not required?
Thanks in advance for the help!
--Paul
RV-6 N976DP
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=36016
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=34369
However, I haven't yet seen an authoritative answer on what is required for an IFR GPS installation. I'm facing this question now in our RV-6 and I would like to know what are current best practices in the experimental community on this topic.
Here's what I think I have figured out so far, in the context of our Apollo GX60 IFR GPS/COMM, followed by questions I would really like to find the answer to!
1. The 2008 AIM 1-1-19-d says that conducting any GPS operation under IFR requires:
... that the equipment meet TSO-C129,
... the installation be done in accordance with Advisory Circular AC 20-138,
... "The GPS operation must be conducted in accordance with the FAA-approved aircraft flight manual or flight manual supplement."
2. The GX60 is a TSO-C129a, class A1 GPS, so the TSO requirement is met. (We also have all the remote CDI, annunciators, etc. that are required.)
3. Advisory Circular AC 20-138A (linked here), supersedes 20-138. One change in the new version is that a GPS installation can now be considered a minor alteration, if manufacturer's instructions are followed (used to require a STC, for aircraft that have a TC). (See paragraph 8.)
4. AC 20-138A also, in paragraphs 22 and 23, lists ground and flight tests. These seem like the sort of thing you would actually want to have done before launching into the clouds.
5. The GX60 installation manual says: "This article may be installed only if further evaluation by the applicant documents an acceptable installation and is approved by the Administrator. Source: FAA TSO-C129a, GSO-C37d, TSO-C38d, and TSO-C128."
6. Apollo (aka II Morrow aka UPS aka Garmin) provide an editable sample AFM supplement (in their "STC kit", linked here) to customize to your GX60 installation. The front page has blanks for FAA signature (name, title, office).
So here are my questions:
A. Since STC's and 337's don't apply to experimental aircraft, a lot of AC 20-138A is not directly applicable. Is this a correct assumption?
B. However the ground and flight tests at least seem like a good idea. Are these typically documented in an experimental IFR GPS installation, and if so what form does the documentation take?
C. Offhand I don't see a way that experimentals are exempt from the requirement of an AFM supplement. Am I missing something? It would be pretty easy to create one for our GX60 installation, starting with the sample, but I don't know about the feasibility of getting an FAA signature on it. Anybody actually done that, or can give me a black-and-white argument for why it's not required?
Thanks in advance for the help!
--Paul
RV-6 N976DP