Thanks for the help. I finally found out that these nutplate are not required in the newer kits. I drilled and countersunk for them anyway. It fun trying to figure out things like this, Van's could be of some help!! The only thing I can come up with is the Maytag problem. Van's aircraft, must be so dependable that their phones would not ring, if they hadn't placed a few blunders and refuse to advise us builders of them, in their plans. I will never understand how a company can build a kit to exceptional presision and print a set of build plans so elaborate, but yet leave a (very few) mistakes or incomplete revisions that confuse almost if not all builders. I could understand if these problems just occured but they have been there since 04 at least some of them.