I received a new ECHO UAT and GPS source from UAVIONIX today. Installed this afternoon, and did setup, then flew, and got back what I think is an excellent report from the FAA site. At this point - HAPPY !
+1 . . . .Can you share some photos of the installation? GPS source and ECHO UAT placement? Also where you installed the UAT(978) antenna.
Forgot you asked about where output Antenna is mounted. From the Navworx install, I have it under side near first rib of tail. About 5' from original TXP Antenna. They provided a new one, but I just used my old one.
Flew first flight today with a new ECHO UAT. ( that replaces a 600EXP). the report shows and I also noted on the set up APP MONITOR that there was no pressure altitude being reported from the UAT out. The GPS altitude was within range. Using a GTX 327 and don't remember anything about any hard wire hook to altitude signal and didn't see any set up for that . I believe it depends on the ECHO to " sniff" the altitude from the XPDR signal. I do have com 1 set up and hard wired RS232 for the XPDR control and set to PANEL ( and have the 327 set to REMOTE)
Reconfigured the ECHO while in flight and within the UAT set up "control set to XPNDR MONITOR the pressure altitude appears.
Can I not use RS232 for Xponder control on COM 1 and " sniff" out the altitude or does one just set up for XPNDR MONITOR for all of that ?
The other major difference I saw was that the ECHO only had one tower connected where as the NWx always had at least 4 or 5. ??
Comments appreciated.
I️ have two AFS 4500 and Garmin 430W and 330 transponder. Will the UAT interface with the AFS 4500 and display traffic and weather(ADS-B in)?
Yes.
There are two versions. The less expensive version requires you to use your 430W as a GPS source. The other option is that there is also an option to bundle a GPS with the echoUAT. I wouldn't recommend the GRT GPS that is what the OP started this thread. The decision point would be is the cost difference worth not having to wire the 430.
You also have the option of hardwiring your transponder, which I would recommend. It will be more reliable than the echoUAT picking up data from the transponder transmissions.
It's also verified by AFS. There are threads on their support site as well.
+1 on hard wiring the transponder. Sooner or later you?ll find yourself flying below radar coverage, and if nothing ?pings? the transponder, a sniffer will have nothing to sniff.
I recently faced the same choice, buy an approved gps or tap into an existing 430W (plus pay $100 to get the software with ADSB+ output). I chose the latter (tap into 430W) but understand that it?s not for everyone. I spent what seemed an eternity but really maybe an hour (?) on my back, under the panel, wishing I had three hands, to tap into the 430. BTW, you?ll need a ?high density? pin for the 430W connection.
Note to current builders: I wish I had had all the RS232 pins installed, with short wires, with my original harness. Would have saved considerable work now.
Being an old fart wearing progressive bifocals, working on those high density pins upside down, under the panel is a royal PITA.
I had some success, with help of some tape, at wearing my progressives upside down! (fortunately my left and right eyes are equally bad).
Have been following the threads with the Echo installation and plan on doing the Garmin 430w RS232 out. What does it take to get the Garmin upgraded to have the "plus" added. Do I have to send in the unit? Also trying to figure out how to lay on my back comfortably for long periods of time, be able to see small objects, and handle them without dropping them into oblivion.
Got the Echo UAT/GRT combo mounted in the 12. I really like it that the components are a lot smaller then the NavWorx box we were originally thinking about using before the FAA fiasco. Wired the Garmin GTR200 com in the second set of ports on the GPS. Will eventually put the combo in my 9A when the pocketbook will allow. I learned quite a bit on setting up the ports on the GRT Sport EFIS's working with support from the GRT guys. Will make the upgrades on the 9A a lot easier when I add my second EFIS screen. Wired the combo into the 4th set of ports on the primary EFIS which are the high speed ones.
+1. . . . .Mike, let us know how the compliance test with the FAA comes out, when you get a chance.
I must be missing something, but I cannot discern the pin out from the install manual for the connections to my GRT HS units. It shows a diagram for the "MiniX" only as far as I can tell.
Connections to the 430W and 327 are clear except there appears some question if shielded wire is called for or not, it's shown in the diagrams, but dismissed in the text.
Last question, I have been feeding Navworx 600 thru pin 14 (1.5 amp max switched power) on the GTX327 and for convenience see no reason to change this.... except it probably ought to be on its own fuse or breaker.
Shane?? Anyone?
Thanks, Tim Andres
Tim,
As for the serial connection from the GTX327 and Echo, you'll use the Transponder Monitor, not the serial connection due to using the 430W as the GPS. You have GPS signal coming in on the Echo pin 6 (com2 rx)from the 430w, as ADSB+ and 9600 for the rate. Then you'll use the Echo pin 3 (Com1 TX)to send GDL 90 Traffic Uplink data to the GRT via RS232 at 115200, preferably. That ties up your serial speeds for those ports. You'l set the Control Source to Transponder Monitor and we'll get the Squawk, Pressure Alt, iDent, etc by that method... which works great on the 327. I hope this helps.
Does anyone have a .pdf document showing the pinouts for the original Navworx 600B unit? If so, I would much appreciate a PM or email with a copy. An RV owner and I are working on his aircraft and I cannot find my old copy. Thanks in advance ! flightlogic at msn