Mike S
Senior Curmudgeon
Why don't we give it few months...I suspect this time next year this discussion will be moot.
Most intelligent post in this whole thread.
Why don't we give it few months...I suspect this time next year this discussion will be moot.
I agree, I was not trying to blast the situation, ok maybe a little, but really just posting the attitudes of the physicians in my area.Why don't we give it few months...I suspect this time next year this discussion will be moot.
Just renewed my 3rd class medical here in Western Michigan and talked with my AME about Basic Med and he went off saying there is no chance he or any of his partners will be doing them basically because of liability through their provider network and feels that most of the primary care physicians in the area will not be either. Sounds like once again its the insurance company making the rules. Time to start applying pressure through the legal channels in their direction.
My PCM at NAS Jacksonville said they had no problem with it. He just requested I bring the checklist with me when I come in for the appointment.Well I heard back from my PCM at the Military Health Clinic we go to and the answer was a big fat no--they have no plans to participate in BasicMed. If any of you military retirees out there get a different answer from your PCM, I'd like to hear about it.
Doug needs to create a new "basic med " section where we can list primary care providers in different cities that will sign the basic med form.
...$50 (the normal airman's exam price) and I was out the door....
It's probably answered somewhere in the string, or on the FAA web page, but let me just ask straight out: can you still get a 3rd class medical or has BasicMed killed it? I don't need the BS of finding a doc who will sign a fit to fly form or taking an online course. BasicMed is a good thing for those who would otherwise be medically grounded, but not for the rest of us. If the 3rd class is dead do you know if I renew my 2nd class will it still convert to a 3rd class after one year?
It's probably answered somewhere in the string, or on the FAA web page, but let me just ask straight out: can you still get a 3rd class medical or has BasicMed killed it? I don't need the BS of finding a doc who will sign a fit to fly form or taking an online course. BasicMed is a good thing for those who would otherwise be medically grounded, but not for the rest of us. If the 3rd class is dead do you know if I renew my 2nd class will it still convert to a 3rd class after one year?
I did the same as Jerry and went to my cardiologist to get the checklist signed off. Sure beats the $6000 - $8000 nuclear stress test I would have to pay out of my pocket the FAA would want me to take for a third class medical special issuance which I had to provide the documentation for in the previous ones and wait 2 - 4 months for an approval. My AME won't do the BasicMed test and my PCP is booked past June. I booked my annual physical last year for this August with my PCP so I will inquire then if he wants to get involved with them or not. Mark me down as one who benefits from the new ruling.
''you then must send a copy of everything to the FAA along with your physician's license number."
That simply means you can present a digital copy of it instead of the actual paper. In my case, I've scanned them to PDF and saved them to "the cloud" so it can be accessed via phone or computer from anywhere.These items can also be in a digital form, which is also a little vague.
The items can be demanded by FAA.
, you then must send a copy of everything to the FAA along with your physician's license number.
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.... you then must send a copy of everything to the FAA along with your physician's license number.... Even AOPA didn't mention to be sure and forward everything to the FAA.
Just had a 1st class medical today with my AME.
He said he won't touch the BasicMed's due to liability.
Originally, he had thought it would be nice to give BasicMed's without the FAA process of the 3rd class.
But soon realized that the FAA protects him when using the 8500 form, but on a BasicMed he would have to buy more liability insurance.
My take is if he doesn't want the liability, how long until your regular doctor figues out he is liable?
Could this be a new problem on the horizon? Just thinking out loud...
Your regular doctor is already insured for whatever risks he assumes....can you imagine the coverage he/she must have if treating children?
But what happens if a BasicMed pilot runs into an A380 full of Passengers?
I'm just relaying what my AME's concens were...
Everything is a "risk" in life, just have to manage it as best as we can.
I hope what I bring up doesnt grow to the regular doc's who are signing off on pilots.
I do think it is a very good program to enrich aviation! We surely need support!
It's in the book (Log Book). My Primary Care had no issue at all.
Great news Pat! My PCP had no concerns, he sees me at least every six months plus he gives me a full physical annually. Now all we have to do is take the online course two years from now and AOPA will send me a reminder so I don't forget it!
Just remember, you can't act as safety pilot if the PIC is under the hood.
I think this is (1) stupid and (2) at least for me, a pain in the ... , since in the past I have had pilot friends act as safety pilot for me, but if they go Basic Med that will be out.
You can decide ahead of time that the safety pilot is acting as PIC for the flight, if that's agreeable to both people.
I'm not sure why "anus" is listed as a checkpoint on the doctor form; perhaps the FAA just wants to make sure I have a "target zone" ;-)
I thought it was so they could check to be sure our head wasn't submerged.That is the most (only?) reasonable explanation for that one I've ever seen
And if it was, to try and pull it out.I thought it was so they could check to be sure our head wasn't submerged.
A poll at this point wouldn't be conclusive as many of us have a current 3rd Class that won't expire for a while. Check back in about 1.5-2 years.
So at the least I saved whatever the difference is between the $250 or so I pay for 3rd Class, )
It appears one aspect of BasicMed is not holding true. It seams like many are not getting their sign-off from their regular doctor who knows them best. Going to a CDL doctor who has never seen me before is Still better then AME that sees me once a year (I am on special issuance) and an FAA doctor in OK city having final say without seeing me in person at all.
Hoping by November when my medical comes due the AMEs and GPs will come around and not fear the BasicMed.
Not sure why you think that using your PCP is expected under BasicMed. .
He doesn't say he thinks it is expected by FAA, he's only observing that in his opinion it seems more logical to go to regular PCP who knows you best