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New (March 2018) Garmin GDL 50/50R ADS-B Receivers

g3xpert

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We are pleased to announce the Garmin GDL 50 portable and GDL 50R remote mount ADS-B receivers that are capable of receiving Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) traffic and weather. Both units also provide built-in attitude sensors and a GPS receiver. The GDL 50 includes a built-in rechargeable battery which provides battery operation for up to 8 hours. While battery and "3D" attitude was optional on the GDL 39, these features are standard on the GDL 50.

Exclusive traffic features such as TargetTrend™ and TerminalTraffic™ further enhance the ADS-B traffic picture and are unique to Garmin products.

Wireless and hardwired compatibility is provided for G3X™ Touch, the aera® 660 and aera 795/796 aviation portables, as well as wireless connectivity with the Garmin Pilot app, giving customers access to a full-featured suite of weather products, ADS-B traffic and more using a single device.

Each of these receivers supports 2 wired (RS-232) display connections and 2 wireless (Bluetooth) display connections for a total of 4 display devices.

One of our most popular G3X Touch installations is one with dual displays, and with the GDL 50R/51R/52R we can now hardwire the RS-232 interfaces to both displays, and leave the 2 wireless interfaces available for portable units.

If you already have a GDL 39 interface mount/cable for your Aera 660/795/796, you can plug it directly into the GDL 50/51/52 since these units use the same connector/wiring as the GDL 39 for power and data.

The GDL 50/50R are the latest additions to the GDL 50/51/52 line of ADS-B and SXM traffic/weather/music receivers.

GDL 50/50R with ADS-B Traffic/Weather, attitude, and GPS (Availalble now for $849)

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Previously announced and available GDL 52/52R with ADS-B Traffic/Weather, SXM weather/music, attitude, and GPS ($1,199)

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Note that the GDL 52 also qualifies for a $200 SXM rebate. Contact SXM for details.

Thanks,
Steve
 
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Hey Steve,
I already own a GDL 39 3D that I have connected to my 796 and Ipad. I do not have a G3X display. I am not interested in the satellite weather or music, so is there any benefit with the GDL 50 over the GDL 39 3D?
 
Hi Steve
Will the GDL50R display 1090 ADS-B traffic from targets that are emitting SIL=0 GPS data?

Thanks

Harry
 
Is this a fair understanding of the GDL 5X units?

GDL 50 - ADS-B dual band in TIS-B & FIS-B receiver with attitude and battery
GDL 51 - SXM music and SXM weather receiver with attitude and battery
GDL 52 - Basically all the features of the 50 and 51 receivers all in rolled up into one

Or by Garmin model number math, 50+51=52

All the new GDL 5X models have an automatic battery power down mode when the unit senses the aircraft is parked on the ground for a certain amount of time.

So if one already has a GDL 39 3D with backup battery option the only real difference between that and the GDL 50 is the automatic backup battery shutdown feature of the 50 (39 requires manually turning off battery power directly or with discrete panel switch). May not be worth upgrade cost. Or is there more?

I swapped out a GDL 39 3D with optional battery for a GDL 52 in January. I changed out the mounting bases and plugged in the original GDL hardwire cable. Since the unit is hidden without a view of the sky I had to add a GA 24mcx SXM remote antenna and re-used the existing ADS-B in and gps remote antennas from the 39 installation. Very easy. Got 3 free months of SXM and a $200 rebate card by mail.

Jim
 
Hey Steve,
I already own a GDL 39 3D that I have connected to my 796 and Ipad. I do not have a G3X display. I am not interested in the satellite weather or music, so is there any benefit with the GDL 50 over the GDL 39 3D?

Hello Tooch,

If you don't need a second serial port for a display, and are pleased with the form factor, battery life, status indications, etc of the GDL 39 3D, we don't see any reason for you to change to a GDL 50.

Thanks,
Steve
 
Hi Steve
Will the GDL50R display 1090 ADS-B traffic from targets that are emitting SIL=0 GPS data?

Thanks

Harry

Hello Harry,

Yes, this is one of the reasons to buy/use our non-certified ADS-B receivers.

The TSO'd units are required to discard non-compliant traffic targets, but the GDL 39/39R and GDL 50/50R/51/51R/52/52R do not filter out these targets.

Thanks,
Steve
 
Is this a fair understanding of the GDL 5X units?

GDL 50 - ADS-B dual band in TIS-B & FIS-B receiver with attitude and battery
GDL 51 - SXM music and SXM weather receiver with attitude and battery
GDL 52 - Basically all the features of the 50 and 51 receivers all in rolled up into one

Or by Garmin model number math, 50+51=52

All the new GDL 5X models have an automatic battery power down mode when the unit senses the aircraft is parked on the ground for a certain amount of time.

So if one already has a GDL 39 3D with backup battery option the only real difference between that and the GDL 50 is the automatic backup battery shutdown feature of the 50 (39 requires manually turning off battery power directly or with discrete panel switch). May not be worth upgrade cost. Or is there more?

I swapped out a GDL 39 3D with optional battery for a GDL 52 in January. I changed out the mounting bases and plugged in the original GDL hardwire cable. Since the unit is hidden without a view of the sky I had to add a GA 24mcx SXM remote antenna and re-used the existing ADS-B in and gps remote antennas from the 39 installation. Very easy. Got 3 free months of SXM and a $200 rebate card by mail.

Jim

Hello Jim,

Yes, your description of the 3 models sounds right.

Agree that one of the benefits of the GDL 50 over the GDL 39 3D w/battery is the improved power management provided by the GDL 50. It is much smarter about using the internal battery and handling the automatic power-down. As you probably know, if external power is removed from the GDL 50 and a display device is still using the GDL 50, it will continue to operate. If the display device powers down and stops communicating, the GDL 50 will then power down.

In a typical installation with one or two Garmin portable display devices connected to the GDL 50 with everything connected to aircraft power, everything comes alive when aircraft power is provided, and everything automatically powers off at the end of the flight when power is removed and the displays stop communicating to the GDL 50.

If you find value in portable AHRS units, you might also have noticed that the attitude solution provided by the the GDL 5X series units is noticeably better than what you have seen before. The GDL 5X units also remember the pitch/roll offsets established in level flight through power cycles, which is something the GDL 39 3D does not do. This is particularly appreciated by those flying tail draggers where the attitude solution is far from normal in-flight attitude at power-up.

Processor performance, attitude and pressure sensors, attitude algorithms - pretty much everything is better and improved from the GDL 39 developed 6 years earlier. In summary, we applied a lot of lessons learned since we began GDL 39 shipments at Oshkosh 2012.

Thanks,
Steve
 
Steve, I'd like to have the attitude feature on foreflight (I "assume" that would work) but my current GDL39 install is upside down with connectors forward, would the GDL50 work mounted like this? According to the manual the answer is no but thought I ask anyway :D
 
Steve, I'd like to have the attitude feature on foreflight (I "assume" that would work) but my current GDL39 install is upside down with connectors forward, would the GDL50 work mounted like this? According to the manual the answer is no but thought I ask anyway :D

Hello Walt,

If you wish to use the attitude feature, it is probably best to not mount it upside down. I just took a GDL 52, turned it upside down and did a "gyro cage" command on the Aera 660, and the attitude picture flipped upright and behaved normally, but since we don't test for installation/operation upside down, we don't recommend you try.

For now, our understanding is that there is no Foreflight support for any of the GDL 50/51/52 series of units, so if you use that program, you would want to stick with the GDL 39.

The Aera 660/795/796 and GDU 4XX displays will work with all the GDL 39 and GDL 50/51/52 units. The serial protocol for the GDL 39/39R is "Garmin Data Transfer", and the serial protocol for the newer GDL 5X/5XR units is "Connext 57600 Baud".

Thanks,
Steve
 
The Aera 660/795/796 and GDU 4XX displays will work with all the GDL 39 and GDL 50/51/52 units.

Are the plugs and wire pinouts the same as the 39 series, or different? If I have wires already run and tucked away between ship's power, GDL-39 3D and my 795, can I just remove the 39 and put the 50 or 50R in its place?

Also, I have noticed my GDL 39 3D via bluetooth connection tends to briefly drop and reconnect from all bluetooth connected devices. I've switched the bluetooth modes on the unit, didn't seem to help either. Common problem?
 
Yep. The new portable units are completely plug and play with the GDL 39 connector and harness. I don't know about the R models but wouldn't be surprised if they have the same pin assignments in the Dsub connector. For the portable bare wire data cables I have seen them being referring to as "GDL cable" dropping the 39 reference from it since it is identical for the 5x series. Forward compatibility makes an upgrade simple and hard to resist.

My GDL 52 has a more stable attitude signal than my old GDL 39 3D which was a little wonky. The 52's Bluetooth works fine with my aera 660's and Bose A20 headsets. And the auto-off function on the 5x has rendered my remote off switch for the GDL 39 battery into a "spare" on the panel.

As far as signal strength I installed a GDL 52R in a friend's Mooney aft of the baggage area (radio rack area). Had to use a GMA 57X on top of the fuselage and a transponder antenna on the belly. While not an ideal Bluetooth signal location we have had no problems with reception up front.

Jim
 
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Bluetooth drop out

I had the GDL39 Bluetooth dropout issues some time ago and If I remember correctly it was fixed by a firmware update.
Figs
 
One small item that I find disappointing with the GDL 52 is that with respect to music out via Bluetooth, only one music device at a time is supported. So in the case of my Husky which has no audio panel I link my Bose A20 headset to the GDL 52 by Bluetooth for SXM music. The back seater can't do the same since only one wireless music pairing at a time is allowed. I could install a monaural audio input jack on the panel but don't think it's worth the effort since the intercom is a high-noise model optimized for voice quality over fidelity. Voices are legible but snary compared to stereo intercoms. The direct Bluetooth connection to the Bose A20 sounds fantastic.

I would think that a device marketed for portable aviation use would be optimized for minimal hard flightdeck interface and maximum wireless portable support. The unit's Bluetooth can talk to two navigation devices concurrently but only one music device. Given the choice this is the best route since music should be the least important item in flight. And it is still a great improvement over prior portable models. Maybe the music device limitation is inherent within industry Bluetooth standards. No matter the reason it still feels rude to exclude the back seater.

Just an observation for the purpose of a heads up for others. I am very happy with the 52.

Jim
 
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GPSMAP 696

Question for Garmin or anyone who knows:

Will this new unit work (via serial) with GPSMap 696? Functionality / features supported?

Thanks in advance
 
I?m disappointed there is no ForeFlight support. Are they working on adding this support or is that not the case?
 
I believe it's Foreflight that has chosen not to support the new improved GDL50/51/52 interface for traffic and weather, and I let them know about.
 
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Question for Garmin or anyone who knows:

Will this new unit work (via serial) with GPSMap 696? Functionality / features supported?

Thanks in advance

Hello Kevin,

No, but of course you can connect a GDL 39/39R for ADS-B traffic/weather and/or a GXM 42 for SXM Weather/Music to your GPSMAP 696.

Thanks,
Steve
 
Two questions:

1) It isn't clear in the docs (to me). Is the GDL-50R plug compatible, data and power, with a GDL-39 3D? I have mine hardwired to a 795 and ships power.

2) Can the unit be vertically or does it need to be essential horizontal?

thanks,
 
Two questions:

1) It isn't clear in the docs (to me). Is the GDL-50R plug compatible, data and power, with a GDL-39 3D? I have mine hardwired to a 795 and ships power.

2) Can the unit be vertically or does it need to be essential horizontal?

thanks,

Hello,

The GDL 50 is plug compatible with the GDL 39 3D.

The GDL 50R uses a 15 pin D-Sub connector (connector kit p/n 010-12498-60).

The unit should be mounted horizontally.

Please contact us by email or phone if you have any additional questions.

Thanks,
Steve
 
When will the GDL50R start shipping? I've had one on order through Garmin Europe since the product was announced.
 
When will the GDL50R start shipping? I've had one on order through Garmin Europe since the product was announced.

Hello Harry,

We have been shipping since early March. I just checked our inventory, and we have plenty.

Thanks,
Steve
 
I am happy to report that the GDL 50 (and probably the others in the GDL 5X series) now works with the latest version of ForeFlight (v10.2). ADS-B weather & traffic, backup attitude, and GPS data from the GDL 50 are now available in ForeFlight. I've been waiting for Garmin and ForeFlight to add this capability, since the GDL 39 series works with ForeFlight.

I downloaded the new version of ForeFlight yesterday and didn't think much about it. During my flight today I was surprised to hear the audio "Traffic" warning from ForeFlight via the iPad mini 4. Checked ForeFlight and all the features from the GDL 50 were there.

BTW, some of the new features added in ForeFlight (v10.2), such as "Traffic & Glance Mode in Synthetic Vision", work quite well.

This is great news! I can?t wait to see it for myself. Thanks RV8JD
 
I too am glad to see that! I checked it a little today and it seemed to work but I got a lot of ADSB has disconnected alerts. Anybody know what is going on there?
 
When it disconnects you get both a visual and an audio "ADSB has disconnected" message. I have not figured out why it disconnects.
 
Today I tried shutting down all apps except FF. I did not disconnect even once. It appears to be an iOS problem. It has done it with both WiFi and BlueTooth connections in the past. When it does it disconnects a lot it seems
 
GDL-50/50R support for ForeFlight

Does Garmin officially support ForeFlight with the GDL-50 series or is this an "off label" unsupported use. I was considering the GDL-50 to interface with my AERA-660 but I don't want to be tied to Garmin Pilot as, after trying both, I still prefer ForeFlight.
 
Yes, well it is the other way around I guess. FF fully supports the GDL 50 series now with the most recent update FF 10.2.
 
Garmin's Reply

I'm happy to hear that the GDL-50 series is working for all of you with ForeFlight. I'd like to use the AREA-660 capabilities to the fullest and the GDL-50 is a reasonably priced path. The lack of ForeFlight support was a non-starter though.

I agree this may be one of those big AirVenture type announcements. I'll sure be asking them both while I'm there.

For what's it worth, I did get a reply to my query from the Garmin folks today. As expected, and as previously stated, they disavow support for ForeFlight / GDL-50 series but do say it may come.

Here's the reply:

Hello Randy,

Thank you for contacting Garmin International. The GDL 50 series isn't currently compatible with Foreflight at this time but hopefully will be in the future. Our GDL 39 is compatible however which will also work with the Aera 660 for ADS-B In information. If you have any further questions please email back.

Best Regards,


Kyle Smith
Aviation Field Support Specialist-Pilot Ops
 
- It's interesting that "g3xpert" has not commented on this. Cannot if it will be announced at Oshkosh.

Hello Carl,

Not as interesting as you might think! :)

We are pleased that FF is adding support for the GDL 5X series of ADS-B and SXM traffic/weather receivers (if they are), but it is mostly a FF announcement. We didn't need to make any changes to the GDL 5X units, and I don't honestly know yet which models are being supported and when.

As of today, they haven't updated their compatibility page.

Thanks,
Steve
 
Just tested my GDL50 feeding FF 10.2 "garmin connexion protocol" data to an iPad & iPhone via blue tooth. All works as expected. GPS position, AHRS, ADS-B traffic data all transfer as expected.
 
Thanks - a user on another forum reported using FF with a GDL 52 including SXM weather and ADS-B traffic plus attitude. Good stuff.

Thanks,
Steve
 
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We are pleased to announce the Garmin GDL 50 portable and GDL 50R remote mount ADS-B receivers that are capable of receiving Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) traffic and weather.




Each of these receivers supports 2 wired (RS-232) display connections
Thanks,
Steve

OK Steve, a question for you-------output is via RS-232, is it a common digital "language" or proprietary to Garmin equipment?
 
OK Steve, a question for you-------output is via RS-232, is it a common digital "language" or proprietary to Garmin equipment?

Mike,

They use Connext format which is a Garmin protocol. I don’t remember seeing this protocol published anywhere.
 
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Will the GDL52 provide weather and traffic to the GTN units? I've seen conflicting info on this ability.
 
Will the GDL52 provide weather and traffic to the GTN units? I've seen conflicting info on this ability.

Hello Walt,

No, the GTN 6XX/7XX units don't currently support receiving traffic/weather from a GDL 50/52.

The GDL 5X(R) models are currently supported by the GDU 450/455/460/465/470 G3X Touch displays, Aera 660/795/796 portables, and tablets/phones running Garmin Pilot and Foreflight (partial support).

Thanks,
Steve
 
Hello Walt,

No, the GTN 6XX/7XX units don't currently support receiving traffic/weather from a GDL 50/52.

The GDL 5X(R) models are currently supported by the GDU 450/455/460/465/470 G3X Touch displays, Aera 660/795/796 portables, and tablets/phones running Garmin Pilot and Foreflight (partial support).

Thanks,
Steve

Thanks Steve, kinda what I figured but then I noticed this on the ACS website Q&A:

Question: Since I will be using the GDL 52R to provide traffic and weather to my Aera 660 GPS can the GDL 52R also send weather data to a Garmin GTN 650?
Answer: The GDL52R has two RS232, so you will be able to hardwire this to the GTN as well as the AERA 660.
 
I know this is a old thread. Is there any follow up to wether a 50/52R will feed to a navigator. I am purchasing a GNC355
 
I know this is a old thread. Is there any follow up to wether a 50/52R will feed to a navigator. I am purchasing a GNC355

Nope. Not yet. In fact probably not ever as it would cut into Garmin's juicy profits on the GTX 345/345R/45R and GNX 375.
 
GDL 51 & G3x?

Is the GDL 51 (Not R) model supported by the GDU 450/455/460/465/470 G3X Touch displays?
 
Yep. Keep in mind a 51 (or 51R) is strictly Sirius XM. But it will interface nicely with all the GDUs mentioned. It will also work well with the aera 796/760/660 series portables. Very flexible.
 
Best to check with Garmin on The touch display. I seem to recall adding SX weather was an additional $500 to the GDU cost and the model number was GDU 465.
 
Has anyone experienced a problem with the GDL-50 Bluetooth cutting out?

I have a GDL-50 (firmware is current, no heat issues), an iPad running Garmin Pilot and an Aera 660.

The GDL Bluetooth will shut off at random times (about three times during my last 1.5 hour flight). It comes back up within a few seconds. The iPad reconnects automatically, but I have to manually connect the 660 each time.

Thoughts?
 
Has anyone experienced a problem with the GDL-50 Bluetooth cutting out?

I have a GDL-50 (firmware is current, no heat issues), an iPad running Garmin Pilot and an Aera 660.

The GDL Bluetooth will shut off at random times (about three times during my last 1.5 hour flight). It comes back up within a few seconds. The iPad reconnects automatically, but I have to manually connect the 660 each time.

Thoughts?

Hopefully it's not due to the new software for the GDL 5X series that came out with the new Aera 660 software on 4/13/2023:

https://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=10040

aera 660 software version 3.90

Changes made from version 3.83 to 3.90:
  • Improve terminal procedure ownship icon position
  • Remove unnecessary Connext button from Flight Plan edit page
  • Remove unnecessary prompt following Bluetooth Flight Plan transfer
  • General improvements to system operation
  • Includes update to GDL 5X software version 2.21 (from v2.19)
  • Includes GDL 39 software version 4.91
  • Includes GPS software version 3.30
 
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