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RV-14 Trim Tab

bkervaski

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Hey guys, after more than one attempt I finally got a perfect trim tab built, mostly .. very last step .. while back riveting the trailing edge you have to make sure you take into account the bend in the trailing edge piece or the rivets won't seat. In an attempt to fix it, I got a row of about 10 small "smileys" on the top skin (they stayed hidden until I pulled the masking and rivet tape off) so I'm going to build it again.

At any rate, it's a near perfect trim tab build (sans small portion of the trailing edge that needs attention) if anyone wants it on the cheap to save the hassle/time to build it .. at least once :D

Here some pics -- https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gh2cld5scralk2f/AABD8M5qK4qiTtyoKeMYWu_7a?dl=0

I'm sure somebody has a clever way to fill this in finishing/paint.
 
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avoids issues like the smileys you show in your photos

Thanks! The smileys are from trying to fix the raised rivet manufactured heads from the bad angle I had on the steel back riveting plate.

Corrected the issue by gluing 3 large popsicle sticks together and then placing them under one side of the back riveting plate matching the angle of the trailing edge and finished up, the rest of the rivets turned out great .. easily reproducible for the next round.

Looking into that tool, looks helpful (thanks).
 
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I also had what I judged a "defective" trim tab - in my case a twist of 1/4? + (a rookie builder issue). I elected to "build on" and save my rebuild-or-not decision until later. The plane flew its Phase I with the original trim tab and I've since decided to rebuild it and done so (installed last week). However, I'm still glad I waited - it kept my project momentum going, it was a reminder that no flying plane is perfect, my skills improved so the redo was a slam dunk, and if I made a dozen worse things, I might have kept it. YMMV
 
The key for me - and for the elevator trailing edges - was using the "safety pin" dimple dies from Cleaveland in my "Main Squeeze" - avoids issues like the smileys you show in your photos.

Are you guys using this tool to fully squeeze the rivets in one pass or just to get them started?
 
On the elevator and trim tab, the "pinned dies" is the only tool I used. I partially set every 10th or so rivet, checked for straightness, split all the gaps (partially set only), then checked for straightness, - etc until all rivets were partially set. Then I repeated a similar pattern (spaced rivets) tightening them up most of the way, but not final. A third pass made final set. Be careful since with these dies, if you alter the distance from the edge, you alter the squeeze - be very careful with positioning.
This might be overkill - but it worked for me.
 
Are you guys using this tool to fully squeeze the rivets in one pass or just to get them started?

Sorry for late response - I usually set them about 90% first pass, then finished up - this made it easier to modulate the force applied with the "main squeeze". I used tape to hold the dies in alignment in the yoke - rubber bands would probably also work.
 
Same here...don't quite understand the use of the pinned dies. Pictures would be very helpful, as that step is still in front of me! Thanks!
 
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Sorry for the huge photo - the dies are angled to match the angle of the trim tab/elevator trailing edges. Sorry don't have photos of it being applied to the actual edges, but I think it's intuitive when you look at this photo. Tricky part is to hold one side against the manufactured head, flush, so that the shop head ends up flush on the angled opposite side.
 
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Sorry for the huge photo - the dies are angled to match the angle of the trim tab/elevator trailing edges. Sorry don't have photos of it being applied to the actual edges, but I think it's intuitive when you look at this photo. Tricky part is to hold one side against the manufactured head, flush, so that the shop head ends up flush on the angled opposite side.

Ah... Those were the magic words: "...the dies are angled." Now I get it. Thanks much! I already ordered the pinned dies!
 
Cleaveland RV-14 Elevator Dies

I am also using the "pinned dies" from Cleaveland Aircraft Tool for my Elevator/Trim Tab trailing edges. So far, I've completed the Trim Tab and the dies produced a near perfect trailing edge. Well worth the $25.00 in my opinion.

Just FYI: Cleaveland states these dies are only for the RV-14 Trailing Edge Wedge and will not work on the rest of the -14 control surfaces.
 
After regrinding the angle I used them to set the aileron trailing edge rivets also using no glue or tape.
 
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