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Forum: RV Friends Who Have Passed On 04-15-2018, 04:01 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 6,998
Tom Irlbeck

Famed RV-8 pilot Tom Irlbeck was killed in an accident in Florida today.

Tom is near the top of the list of a who's who of RV builders and pilots.

http://www.mnwing.org/completed-rvs/tom-irlbeck/
Forum: RV-12 03-19-2018, 03:51 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 911
Curious. What's on the other side of that?...

Curious. What's on the other side of that? Doesn't look like there's a nutplate.
Forum: RV-12 03-19-2018, 06:49 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 911
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CHcyGo7JITA/Wq-xvxWh1PI...

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Forum: RV-12 03-19-2018, 06:43 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 911
Yikes. A lot of thread drift in that one, but...

Yikes. A lot of thread drift in that one, but good info on that line of rivets. I'll go ahead and zip those up. But, there are two holes, in particular, that have no rivet call out that were my...
Forum: Midwest 03-19-2018, 06:32 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,578
... if you guys are ever looking for 172 pounds...

... if you guys are ever looking for 172 pounds of ballast....
Forum: RV-12 03-18-2018, 08:02 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 911
Open holes in RV-12 side skin attach

Somewhere around page 7 or 8 of the RV-12iS instructions of Section 23, when you get to actually rivet on the side skins, it refers to Figure one and the line of rivets on the bottom row of the side...
Forum: RV-12 03-16-2018, 04:26 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,037
I like to think I come by the term...

I like to think I come by the term honestly.:)

https://youtu.be/DbAEuFbFaco
Forum: RV-12 03-16-2018, 02:30 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,037
Ah, OK, that makes sense. I thought it was...

Ah, OK, that makes sense. I thought it was referring to knocking down the sharp edges.

I always referred to this task as "rolling the edges" or "forming the edges" (thus edge-rolling and/or...
Forum: RV-12 03-16-2018, 01:21 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,037
Right but if you're already deburring the side...

Right but if you're already deburring the side skins, wouldn't that involve breaking an edge. I'm curious why there would be separate attention for the bottom and aft edges?
Forum: RV-12 03-15-2018, 03:53 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,037
RV-12 side skin deburring

I'm about 350 hours into the RV-12 project and am continually amazed by the kit.

Occasionally, not often, I find some specifics in the instructions that make me say, "I wonder why that is?"

Take...
Forum: RV-12 02-19-2018, 08:07 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,229
Ah, OK. I went back out and checked. No mention...

Ah, OK. I went back out and checked. No mention of a bend in the aft end, just a note of a line for a weight-saving cut.

TFYH

Proceeding with steps 1-3 on the front end.
Forum: RV-12 02-19-2018, 06:02 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,229
(puts on coat at night, heads out into the ice...

(puts on coat at night, heads out into the ice storm and heads to the hangar. Because some things can't wait,)
Forum: RV-12 02-19-2018, 05:54 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,229
What is KAI?

What is KAI?
Forum: RV-12 02-19-2018, 04:42 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,229
I just put them together to show that it's the...

I just put them together to show that it's the rear that's bent . but maybe that's how it's supposed to be.
Forum: RV-12 02-19-2018, 02:55 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,336
They tell you to leave the one hole open and that...

They tell you to leave the one hole open and that was fine.

I ended up flipping the thing over and working on it right side up on the workbench and with a little finagling, got everything to fit...
Forum: RV-12 02-19-2018, 02:51 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,229
Pre-twisted longerons?

Wondering if anyone else who's received early shipments (November) of the RV-12-iS fuselage kit got pre-bent longerons at the aft end -- at first I figured Steps 2 and 3 of Section 23 had already...
Forum: RV-12 02-18-2018, 07:07 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,336
I'll do some more beating on it.

I'll do some more beating on it.
Forum: RV-12 02-18-2018, 05:47 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,336
RV-12iS forward lower fuse mating problem

I wonder if there are supposed to be two more slots on the forward end of the mid fuselage skin.

Here's why.

When you make the lower forward fuselage, there are two large -- for want of a better...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 01-07-2018, 01:32 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 1,142
300 Hours: Then and now

I hit 299.6 hours this morning in the RV-12iS project. It's been almost a year to the day since I took delivery of the first kit. In the first year, there was a lot of waiting around. I didn't...
Forum: RV Building Tips/Techniques 01-02-2018, 07:59 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 5,023
Dimpling IS a distortion as it's stretching the...

Dimpling IS a distortion as it's stretching the skin, albeit slightly. If you're using a good set of dimple dies, you're not going to distort it more than the dies will allow.

But, I don't know...
Forum: RV-12 12-28-2017, 06:57 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,874
To conclude, it came out fine with the modified...

To conclude, it came out fine with the modified side cutters and a new drill bit.
Forum: RV-12 12-26-2017, 02:42 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,874
Drilling out CCR264SS-3-2 rivets

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RV12 Section 21. Page 21IS/U-5.

Unbeknownst to me, the nutplate had fallen off...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 12-19-2017, 10:52 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 1,068
Whew! I was a little nervous,...

Whew! I was a little nervous, there.

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Forum: RV General Discussion/News 12-18-2017, 03:44 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 1,068
Do all RV-12's have this much vibration?

Do all RV-12's have this much vibration?
Forum: RV-12 12-17-2017, 09:26 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,899
Right, which an RV-12 builder would have done by...

Right, which an RV-12 builder would have done by this point anyway since instructions on the emp kit required the dimpling of the nutplate ears with this advice.
Forum: RV-12 12-17-2017, 09:24 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,899
Since this location is skin, fitting rib, fitting...

Since this location is skin, fitting rib, fitting nutplate, I think if you're going to do it this way, why not just countersink the rib flange to accept the dimple from the baggage floor skin? You'll...
Forum: RV-12 12-16-2017, 03:47 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,899
I understand my options. *My* quality control is...

I understand my options. *My* quality control is not to countersink skin this thin and I can dimple a nutplate in a fraction of second.. That's why I'm not asking "is there any other way to attach...
Forum: RV-12 12-16-2017, 10:36 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,899
K-1100-08D?

I'm getting kind of tired waiting for bag 3124 (i think) to finally be delivered from back order on the RV-12i fuse kit so I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and buy the parts elsewhere so I...
Forum: RV-12 12-14-2017, 06:59 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,928
Yeah, I stuck the center section on it end, put a...

Yeah, I stuck the center section on it end, put a block under the floor to take out the strain that tended to pull the flange away, kept a cleco on each side , pressure on the squeezer and started...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 12-12-2017, 01:47 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 4,712
Part of the answer depends on whether this is an...

Part of the answer depends on whether this is an amicable parting of the ways or a hostile one.

I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I wouldn't wish divorce on my worst enemy; it's not fun. ...
Forum: RV-12 12-12-2017, 11:20 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,928
Guys: Can't thank you enough for refocusing my...

Guys:

Can't thank you enough for refocusing my attention. There it is on step six, as you said.

I had skipped these two steps on the previous page and jumped ahead because Van's has back ordered on...
Forum: RV-12 12-11-2017, 09:16 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,928
OK, cool. This'll be a first.

OK, cool. This'll be a first.
Forum: RV-12 12-11-2017, 08:42 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,928
Seriously? They want me to use a flush set on...

Seriously? They want me to use a flush set on the shop head?
Forum: RV-12 12-11-2017, 06:45 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,928
Baggage floor to center section riveting

And we're back.

Tonite's question involves the RV-12iS, Section 21 page three instructions for riveting the three ribs and baggage floor to the center.

Specifically, this line of rivets --...
Forum: RV-12 12-11-2017, 02:51 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,616
Heard back from Van's: It's an error in the...

Heard back from Van's: It's an error in the instructions that the #40 holes and the need to dimple them in the rib isn't mentioned. So...dimple away.
Forum: RV-12 12-11-2017, 05:43 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,616
That's what I thought. There are two #30 holes on...

That's what I thought. There are two #30 holes on that edge that need dimpling but not having the 40's called out was a signal to stop.

This is the new RV-12iS design, so I'm presuming the fuse...
Forum: RV-12 12-10-2017, 03:35 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,616
Section 21 dimpling question

Stopping so I don't do something stupid. Need clarification on Section 21iS/U-03 step 3 which tells you to rivet F-01221-R-1 to the floor, F-01224-R-1.

Step 2 says dimple the two #30 holes but says...
Forum: RV-12 12-09-2017, 07:16 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,497
Either the G-27 or G-28 will work (although the...

Either the G-27 or G-28 will work (although the Spruce Q/A on G-28 says it won't work with CherryMax rivets; that's wrong)
Forum: RV-12 12-08-2017, 05:44 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,497
I love CherryMax rivets

Just to update on my previous thread about struggling for perfection with the 4-8 CherryMax rivets and a cheap pop riveter for the center section...

A week or so has passed and replacement rivets...
Forum: RV-12 12-01-2017, 04:21 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 2,901
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I was glad for the "0" before some of the old numbers. Made it easier to...
Forum: RV-12 11-30-2017, 04:28 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 3,467
That's QUALITY comedy right there!! Quality!!...

That's QUALITY comedy right there!! Quality!!

It's gold, Jerry. Gold.

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Forum: RV-12 11-30-2017, 08:41 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 3,467
hello? .........

hello?

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Forum: RV General Discussion/News 11-30-2017, 06:23 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 1,058
What does "short rate" mean?

What does "short rate" mean?
Forum: RV-12 11-30-2017, 06:04 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 2,901
I got mine two weeks ago. I ordered it the day it...

I got mine two weeks ago. I ordered it the day it was announced BUT I already had a fuselage order into the company and they converted me to the new one. So I was sort of already in the...
Forum: RV-12 11-29-2017, 08:01 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 3,467
OK.. keep going.

OK.. keep going.
Forum: RV-12 11-29-2017, 04:32 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 3,467
Are you referring to the wedge or the puller? ...

Are you referring to the wedge or the puller? Because that's the puller that Van's say will not work. Its instructions say nothing about using the AEX wedge that you make in the process (which...
Forum: RV-12 11-29-2017, 03:08 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 3,467
Also, one other question: Does the degree to...

Also, one other question: Does the degree to which the "other" pop riveters will work depend on the length of the CherryMax rivet? For example, I set the 4-2's just fine with your typical...
Forum: RV-12 11-29-2017, 02:59 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 3,467
Are you referring to my particular problem?...

Are you referring to my particular problem? Because the way I read section 5 is the AEX wedge tool we make as, well, step one, is not a solution.

Not sure what the tool is that's sold by Cleveland...
Forum: RV-12 11-29-2017, 02:56 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 3,467
Right. I read Section 5 first because it was...

Right. I read Section 5 first because it was specifically noted to do so in Section 20. I just refer to it all as the SB.
Forum: RV-12 11-28-2017, 08:57 PM
Replies: 24
Views: 3,467
I hate CherryMax rivets

I read and followed the Van's service bulletin on Cherry Max rivets, even ground down the side of a Stanley riveter to be sure it was straight when riveting the fuselage center section with those...
Forum: My RV Build Project 11-27-2017, 12:31 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 3,032
I'd be interested in what Van's has to say....

I'd be interested in what Van's has to say. Personally, I can see a world of hurt coming from trying to drill them out.
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 11-11-2017, 04:31 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 4,197
A couple of years ago I looked at my post count...

A couple of years ago I looked at my post count and the per-day number and thought it was too high so I pretty much stopped.
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 11-09-2017, 01:38 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 11,811
For anyone who doesn't spend a lot of time in the...

For anyone who doesn't spend a lot of time in the Forums, the discussion is interesting but there's no detail or link to what people are talking about. Can someone post the actual release?

[ed. Bob,...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 08-11-2017, 01:41 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 8,662
This is really the other side of the coin for me....

This is really the other side of the coin for me. There are so many *(&@&*^* tire kickers out there that I'm on the side of "whoever puts money in my hands first gets an airplane" camp.

But, yeah,...
Forum: RV-12 08-02-2017, 01:17 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 2,044
KSGS is a terrific airport and they've got a...

KSGS is a terrific airport and they've got a couple of young guys managing the place (the previous guy is under indictment for embezzling) and making all the right moves.

And they dropped the price...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 08-02-2017, 01:12 PM
Replies: 58
Views: 7,089
That's pretty much why I stopped going to most of...

That's pretty much why I stopped going to most of the forums with obvious exceptions; they were often thinly disguised infommercials.
Forum: RV-12 08-01-2017, 11:23 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 2,044
It's crazy. A retired person without concert...

It's crazy. A retired person without concert tickets could build one a year. :D
Forum: RV-12 07-31-2017, 11:16 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 2,044
What you can do building an RV-12

I didn't get to Oshkosh this year so I spent the time building. The final wing took a week. A...
Forum: RV-12 07-18-2017, 02:11 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 18,052
I've always wondered this: When you build a...

I've always wondered this: When you build a plane, how many people actually work on the building process?
Forum: RV-12 07-18-2017, 01:04 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 18,052
Not having fuel injection was one of the (few)...

Not having fuel injection was one of the (few) things that bummed me out about the RV-12.

I ordered the fuselage kit a few weeks ago -- because this thing is going together so darned fast!! -- and...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 07-18-2017, 12:36 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 11,816
I was told today that the RV-12 can now be...

I was told today that the RV-12 can now be configured for a fuel injected engine, and that the fuel tank will now be part of the fuselage kit rather than the finishing kit.

Is the part of the...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 07-14-2017, 08:49 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 5,003
I'll miss seeing you this year, Jerry, but thanks...

I'll miss seeing you this year, Jerry, but thanks again for all you do.
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