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Forum: RV-14 11-14-2018, 08:14 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,395
Posted By mturnerb
Thanks - most of my ideas shamelessly stolen from...

Thanks - most of my ideas shamelessly stolen from others. Not only is it 10 lbs in a 5lb sack (my father used a different reference than potatoes by the way), it's unique to each installation. In...
Forum: RV-14 11-13-2018, 08:50 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,395
Posted By mturnerb
Late to this thread. I've done drop-down trays...

Late to this thread. I've done drop-down trays on both sides and shelf inside glovebox opening for backup battery and backup alternator regulator. Also a plate inside upper part of glovebox opening...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 11-13-2018, 06:15 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 198
Posted By mturnerb
These are butt splices. Good way to connect two...

These are butt splices. Good way to connect two wire ends securely but not as convenient as a connector. I like solder splices as well for permanent connections. If I were doing a butt splice I'd...
Forum: RV-14 11-13-2018, 06:06 AM
Replies: 1
Views: 263
Posted By mturnerb
I put all the wires for the pitot tube in wing...

I put all the wires for the pitot tube in wing just in case (with enough wire to reach cabin). (14 Ga) IIRC, one power wire supplies controller which in turn supplies the pitot tube itself.

In...
Forum: RV-14 11-13-2018, 06:01 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 272
Posted By mturnerb
Good point from Scott. I replaced one of my...

Good point from Scott. I replaced one of my Stewart Warner senders from Vans prior to installation (easy to find at any automotive site) because I thought it was substantially stiffer than the...
Forum: RV-14 11-05-2018, 05:31 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,935
Posted By mturnerb
Any resources to show how a builder might do this?

Any resources to show how a builder might do this?
Forum: RV-14 11-04-2018, 05:46 AM
Replies: 50
Views: 5,497
Posted By mturnerb
There are already a number of non-flush (Cherry...

There are already a number of non-flush (Cherry Max) rivets on the belly of an RV14/14A. I’m not advocating this particular approach but I don’t think a handful more rivets with a little oil to...
Forum: RV-14 11-03-2018, 10:11 AM
Replies: 50
Views: 5,497
Posted By mturnerb
No news here: I was asking the question to make...

No news here: I was asking the question to make a point really - and part of the point is that universal head rivets in a low-visibility area do no harm.
Forum: RV-14 11-03-2018, 10:00 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,084
Posted By mturnerb
I guess the questions for me would be: 1. What...

I guess the questions for me would be:

1. What are the potential long (and short) term issues that might arise as the result of changes in engine-propeller resonance?
2. Can the issues be addressed...
Forum: RV-14 11-03-2018, 07:27 AM
Replies: 50
Views: 5,497
Posted By mturnerb
Other than cosmetics and the loss of .001 knots...

Other than cosmetics and the loss of .001 knots of speed, any reason not to use universal head rivets?
Forum: RV-14 10-28-2018, 02:40 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 317
Posted By mturnerb
If so the easy fix might be to match-drill #30...

If so the easy fix might be to match-drill #30 and use size 4 rivets. But definitely check with Van's.
Forum: RV-14 10-27-2018, 12:00 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 5,497
Posted By mturnerb
Maybe a dab of proseal or similar to help keep...

Maybe a dab of proseal or similar to help keep water out?
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 10-27-2018, 04:40 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 1,896
Posted By mturnerb
Does anyone know how many Van's kits have been...

Does anyone know how many Van's kits have been sold in total?
Forum: RV-14 10-25-2018, 02:45 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 5,497
Posted By mturnerb
Greg: thanks for this explanation. Exactly what...

Greg: thanks for this explanation. Exactly what I was hoping to hear. I will of course do the SB as cracks are clearly an issue, but I don't feel the need to add stiffeners etc for oil canning...
Forum: RV-14 10-25-2018, 06:01 AM
Replies: 50
Views: 5,497
Posted By mturnerb
The question to me is: does the oil canning need...

The question to me is: does the oil canning need to be fixed? I'm currently flying a 38 year old Archer with 3K hours or so, and when I fly I can see the top wing skins distorting between rivet...
Forum: RV-14 10-24-2018, 07:34 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 5,497
Posted By mturnerb
The drilling I was referring to was the match...

The drilling I was referring to was the match drilling of clips to bulkhead: Difficulty is proportional to age and mobility/size and I'm not exactly a spring chicken. I need a young, skinny person...
Forum: RV-14 10-24-2018, 03:02 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 5,497
Posted By mturnerb
I reviewed the SB and ordered parts today. The...

I reviewed the SB and ordered parts today. The only hard part will be getting back that far to drill and buck rivets, etc.
Forum: RV-14 10-23-2018, 07:11 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 62,676
Posted By mturnerb
Now that's confidence inspiring!

Now that's confidence inspiring!
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 10-22-2018, 11:09 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 640
Posted By mturnerb
I was also inspired by the article to learn more....

I was also inspired by the article to learn more. Biggest issue by far is price. Like $5 for one nutplate. Whoa!
Forum: RV-14 10-13-2018, 09:38 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,156
Posted By mturnerb
As others have mentioned, I separate standard...

As others have mentioned, I separate standard parts like bolts/nuts etc into labeled bins. Same for rivets (side note - Van's often puts small amounts of a given size rivets in different "bags", as...
Forum: RV-14 10-12-2018, 07:12 AM
Replies: 1
Views: 478
Posted By mturnerb
I did it that way. No problem. Trickier is...

I did it that way. No problem. Trickier is doing the wingtip ribs.
Forum: RV-14 10-09-2018, 06:33 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,127
Posted By mturnerb
For me the main reason to remove them was the...

For me the main reason to remove them was the installation of fuel senders: the easiest way to test the fit of the bends in sender arms was to repeatedly flip tank over - not possible when on...
Forum: RV-14 10-08-2018, 05:42 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,559
Posted By mturnerb
Good idea, and of course some thread drift: How...

Good idea, and of course some thread drift:

How do the Aircraft Spruce vent controls (I assume used for heat vents) differ from Van's supplied controls?
Forum: RV-14 10-07-2018, 04:47 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 601
Posted By mturnerb
https://turnerb14a.blogspot.com/2018/03/march-6-up...

https://turnerb14a.blogspot.com/2018/03/march-6-update-qb-wing-right.html

Many people have found that you need a "v" bend in the sender arms to fully clear all the structure. I found that removing...
Forum: RV-14 10-04-2018, 07:05 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 539
Posted By mturnerb
Perfect answer - thanks!

Perfect answer - thanks!
Forum: RV-14 10-04-2018, 06:32 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 539
Posted By mturnerb
RV-14A Exhaust system installation question

I am about to mount the nosegear and put the fuselage/empennage assembly on the wheels.

I have read on other threads that the "Y" shaped exhaust component cannot be installed without taking weight...
Forum: RV-14 10-01-2018, 03:27 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 807
Posted By mturnerb
Same source for me - this resource is a great...

Same source for me - this resource is a great collection of annotated versions of the plans but some of them are out of sync with latest plans. I always check the version I was sent with my kits AND...
Forum: RV-14 09-30-2018, 09:38 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 807
Posted By mturnerb
I did QB wings and slow build fuse, and did use...

I did QB wings and slow build fuse, and did use the plans you refer to but also went through each section of complete plans to verify that I wasn't missing anything.

I'm not aware of what is...
Forum: RV-12 09-29-2018, 10:37 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,204
Posted By mturnerb
Agree, and would add 9A to this list since you...

Agree, and would add 9A to this list since you don't need aerobatics - I came VERY close to buying a 9A versus building 14A. I think the 9A is the best compromise between utility and performance if...
Forum: RV-14 09-29-2018, 10:28 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 2,598
Posted By mturnerb
Just don't take my solution as being recommended...

Just don't take my solution as being recommended safe or best practice. I am sharing my experience and my comfort level (based on what I believe to be good advice). I would guess the biggest risk...
Forum: RV-12 09-29-2018, 09:27 AM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,204
Posted By mturnerb
I have experience in the RV-12. It is a...

I have experience in the RV-12. It is a fantastic airplane - roomy and comfortable, good speed for your mission, and both fun and easy to fly. I think sitting in the factory demonstrator will tell...
Forum: RV-14 09-29-2018, 06:46 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 2,598
Posted By mturnerb
The challenge isn't just the overall shim...

The challenge isn't just the overall shim thickness. I don't know how the -14 compares to other models, but I found that some of the issue is how one side moves when the other is tightened. I...
Forum: RV-14 09-29-2018, 02:20 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 2,598
Posted By mturnerb
I had the same situation - spent many hours...

I had the same situation - spent many hours trying every possible combination of washers/shims I could: finally discussed at length with my tech counselor. He advised me to replace the standard...
Forum: RV-14 09-28-2018, 06:22 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,879
Posted By mturnerb
Makes sense - I think I followed the written...

Makes sense - I think I followed the written instructions so it wasn't an issue.
Forum: RV-14 09-28-2018, 06:20 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,879
Posted By mturnerb
I looked at the wrong version of the plans!

I looked at the wrong version of the plans!
Forum: RV-14 09-28-2018, 02:42 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 662
Posted By mturnerb
See blog post here from 9/16: ...

See blog post here from 9/16: https://turnerb14a.blogspot.com/

In addition to the Van's red/white strip, I put a light fixture in the baggage area: I used a couple of LED lights from Amazon...
Forum: RV-14 09-28-2018, 05:30 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 1,879
Posted By mturnerb
I honestly don't remember what I did when I came...

I honestly don't remember what I did when I came to this section but I have two questions:

1. Is the shim material thick enough to countersink? It would seem obvious if a part is too thin..

2. If...
Forum: RV-14 09-27-2018, 10:17 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 643
Posted By mturnerb
I meant to convey that I was agreeing with you in...

I meant to convey that I was agreeing with you in that the alignment is tricky. Sorry if it sounded critical when I meant to convey the opposite.
Forum: RV-14 09-27-2018, 04:34 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 643
Posted By mturnerb
I used the gear legs themselves to check...

I used the gear legs themselves to check alignment: clamped straightedge to each gear leg, measure distance at the same point on each side (fore/aft). Had to find the math to calculate the angle...
Forum: RV-14 09-26-2018, 06:20 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 10,506
Posted By mturnerb
Understood - the match drilling would be to the...

Understood - the match drilling would be to the bulkhead - I looked at mine and didn't see existing holes.
Forum: RV-14 09-26-2018, 05:56 PM
Replies: 55
Views: 10,506
Posted By mturnerb
I took a look at the new section 10: looks like...

I took a look at the new section 10: looks like two simple clips that will rivet to the aft bulkhead (the one with rudder cable crossover) and the two outboard j-channels. Pretty simple except for...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 09-26-2018, 05:39 AM
Replies: 66
Views: 8,624
Posted By mturnerb
Agree. Also, i find it mentally taxing to look...

Agree. Also, i find it mentally taxing to look for a description in busy airspace as opposed to knowing a type and location. Confirmation on moving map with N-number helps solidify the mental...
Forum: RV-14 09-25-2018, 10:24 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 2,078
Posted By mturnerb
Same decision here, for the same reasons. I...

Same decision here, for the same reasons. I would add that it's a very easy install. Not much downside.
Forum: RV-7/7A 09-24-2018, 03:08 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,175
Posted By mturnerb
Synergy Air has a fantastic basic builders...

Synergy Air has a fantastic basic builders course. I second Jason Ellis on YouTube. Also check out Andrew Kilroy. Look at this site as well: http://www.goodplaneliving.com/rv10-build/. Lots of...
Forum: RV-14 09-23-2018, 09:24 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,018
Posted By mturnerb
I didn't need shims. No gap on right, about...

I didn't need shims. No gap on right, about .008" on left before torquing, down to about .006 after torque. Discussed with mothership and they said check it every condition inspection - if it opens...
Forum: RV-14 09-19-2018, 04:52 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,163
Posted By mturnerb
There was a printed sheet in my finishing kit...

There was a printed sheet in my finishing kit with instructions for filing it - forgot about it until you mentioned it.

I found the AN3's easy to torque - reach in with torque wrench between the...
Forum: RV-14 09-19-2018, 02:19 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,163
Posted By mturnerb
Just did this - no issues except I had to remove...

Just did this - no issues except I had to remove primer from inside the holes in the brace after priming since the holes are very close tolerance.

Are you sure you did the reaming steps in section...
Forum: RV-14 09-18-2018, 11:04 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,230
Posted By mturnerb
I am about to install my Beringer wheels/brakes. ...

I am about to install my Beringer wheels/brakes. Not that many parts that are likely to break that I can see. And it wouldn't be hard to keep extras of those few parts in the aircraft. All that...
Forum: RV-14 09-17-2018, 11:15 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 807
Posted By mturnerb
Yes servo fits into aileron bellcrank bracket....

Yes servo fits into aileron bellcrank bracket. Check photo here: https://turnerb14a.blogspot.com/2018/03/update-march-18th-right-wing-systems.html

Unless you’re using something other than Dynon or...
Forum: RV-14 09-17-2018, 09:14 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 852
Posted By mturnerb
I installed pitch and yaw servos after the...

I installed pitch and yaw servos after the empennage/fuselage join - not really too hard. You have to install a bracket for the yaw servo which would have been easier before the join - I ended up...
Forum: RV-14 09-16-2018, 02:39 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 852
Posted By mturnerb
CORRECT - my mistake - editing original post.

CORRECT - my mistake - editing original post.
Forum: RV-14 09-15-2018, 07:38 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 852
Posted By mturnerb
The roll servo mount is included with the wing...

The roll servo mount is included with the wing kit. The pitch servo mount is part of the elevator bellcrank assembly included in the fuselage kit.

The only extra mounts I had to buy were for the...
Forum: RV-14 09-15-2018, 02:41 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,236
Posted By mturnerb
Good points Art - as you might expect control...

Good points Art - as you might expect control pushrods and associated rod ends and jam nuts will be high on the list for condition inspections. I've used the "dot" method rarely and I think...
Forum: RV-14 09-15-2018, 10:11 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,236
Posted By mturnerb
Thanks for the feedback - this is a great...

Thanks for the feedback - this is a great community for sharing and I'm happy that I can contribute!
Forum: RV-14 09-15-2018, 10:07 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 2,354
Posted By mturnerb
50% power. 7 GPH. Most folks getting 165-170Kt...

50% power. 7 GPH. Most folks getting 165-170Kt at higher fuel flow and power settings - I think OP's point was the endurance at economy fuel flow settings. And it's totally consistent with...
Forum: RV-14 09-14-2018, 06:35 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,236
Posted By mturnerb
I found it easier to install the fittings and the...

I found it easier to install the fittings and the fuel sender as well as testing the tank with them off the wing (built a cradle to hold them on bench). I replaced all the bolts with new and torqued...
Forum: Primers 09-13-2018, 09:18 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,661
Posted By mturnerb
What's the evidence that a "bad job with rattle...

What's the evidence that a "bad job with rattle cans is much worse than doing nothing"? How do you define a bad job? I did due diligence and chose this route and have found the primer to be...
Forum: RV-14 09-13-2018, 02:09 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,521
Posted By mturnerb
Nicely done! Very similar to the method I used...

Nicely done! Very similar to the method I used with very similar results...
Forum: Primers 09-13-2018, 09:56 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,661
Posted By mturnerb
A reasonably safe/less messy option is to brush...

A reasonably safe/less messy option is to brush or roll on the Sherwin Williams "wash primer" that Van's uses in the quickbuilds (P60G2 I think). Not the route I chose but it's been tested in the...
Forum: RV General Discussion/News 09-12-2018, 07:29 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 2,866
Posted By mturnerb
This thread makes me appreciate the -14A canopy...

This thread makes me appreciate the -14A canopy for sure. Some tricky fitting but nothing like your troubles. I think your solution looks good and when it's filled and painted you'll forget about...
Forum: California 09-10-2018, 12:56 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 376
Posted By mturnerb
It's all about location. In my area T-hangars go...

It's all about location. In my area T-hangars go for $400-500 / month.
Forum: RV-14 09-09-2018, 02:26 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 789
Posted By mturnerb
I mounted mine one bay outboard of the...

I mounted mine one bay outboard of the pushrod/bellcrank and shortened the tubes to assure clearance.

Check out photos here: ...
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