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scottwalsh 07-20-2017 06:24 AM

Garmin G3X Touch With NAV Option
 
Was looking at the new RV-12iS specs page (http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv12iS_specs.htm) and I noticed at the bottom a panel option of 'Garmin G3X Touch With NAV Option'.

I haven't noticed that in the past, is it new with RV-12iS? Also does anyone know what is included and the pricing, I can't seem to find more information on the Vans website?

Azjulian 07-20-2017 11:52 AM

That's really interesting from the image that option looks like the integration of a GTN 6xx which would allow you to execute GPS precision IFR apppraches and by the look of that panel replace the radio with the GTN so it would be either a GTn635 or a 650 the 650 allowing you to bring in VOR as well.

That is awesome, what a fantastic option for IFR training

scottwalsh 07-21-2017 04:28 AM

Was thinking it might be a GTN 6xx, so curious what model.

croner15 07-21-2017 01:36 PM

Instrument Ticket in 12iS?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Azjulian (Post 1189520)
what a fantastic option for IFR training

The apparent inclusion of the GTN option and most of the other improvements indicate Vans broadening the 12iS's appeal to commercial flight schools (and for good reason with a new 172 costing $500k these days).

With the Rotax (912ULS at least) restricted to day VFR, is the 12iS really an option for flight schools or prospective builders who want to use it for an instrument ticket?

In other words, can I build a 12iS and get my instrument ticket in it (including checkride) despite the limitations placed on the Rotax? If so, how?

RVbySDI 07-21-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by croner15 (Post 1189854)
With the Rotax (912ULS at least) restricted to day VFR, is the 12iS really an option for flight schools or prospective builders who want to use it for an instrument ticket?

In other words, can I build a 12iS and get my instrument ticket in it (including checkride) despite the limitations placed on the Rotax? If so, how?

Not sure where you are getting the idea that an engine (the Rotax 912ULS) is limited by regulations to only be flown in day VFR conditions. A Light Sport Pilot flying such an engine in a Light Sport certified aircraft will be restricted from flying IFR but the actual plane itself is not. If the airplane has the appropriate equipment to legally fly IFR, a private pilot with appropriate credentials can use it to fly IFR.

So the answer to your question is: Yes you can.

dweyant 07-21-2017 02:40 PM

How can a flight school use an RV-12 for training. You can't use experimental for commercial ops, correct?

-Dan

RVbySDI 07-21-2017 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dweyant (Post 1189870)
How can a flight school use an RV-12 for training. You can't use experimental for commercial ops, correct?

-Dan

Vans sells the RV-12 as an S-LSA in addition to selling them as an E-LSA. The S-LSA is factory built. Try this website for info on the factory built 12:
http://flyrv12.com/

Guess which one can be used for training!

croner15 07-21-2017 03:05 PM

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B92...ew?usp=sharing

This is where I'm getting hung up. Page 1-5 of Rotax 912 operating manual.

RVbySDI 07-21-2017 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by croner15 (Post 1189874)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B92...ew?usp=sharing

This is where I'm getting hung up. Page 1-5 of Rotax 912 operating manual.

Well, don't get hung up on that statement. The important part of that statement is: "Unless correctly equipped to provide electrical power for night VFR. . ." That would not be an issue to make sure you build it to be "correctly equipped".

Live Long and Prosper!

AlanTN 07-21-2017 04:31 PM

Why Certified Engines?
 
I'm confused. Do you not have to have a certified engine and certified IFR equipment to fly IFR? If not, what is the need for a certified engine?


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