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iamtheari 01-08-2018 08:37 AM

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I ordered my RV-14 empennage kit so now it's time to start asking really, really basic questions. On the very first page of the build instructions, it says to "dimple the rivet holes on the aft face of the VS-702 Front Spar and VS-01401 Front Spar Doubler" and then in the associated Figure 4 it says "dimple flush aft." Does this mean to dimple toward the aft or dimple toward the front so the flush side is to the aft? I assume the latter, but I don't want to act on a bad assumption on the very first page of the kit.

I look forward to getting started on the build. Rest assured that I will have more basic questions as I go, and for posterity I will make future builders even more comfortable asking their basic questions since they can't possibly be more basic than mine. :)

bkervaski 01-08-2018 08:48 AM

Bring on the questions!

Typically the manual will say something like "flush aft" or "flush this side".

You'll need to study/read ahead and see how the "assembly" you're working with is put together, it will help clear up the big picture.

Also, and you will do this at some point, if you do dimple the wrong direction you only get 1 re-do to fix it, more than that and the part needs to be replaced. Additional attempts to fixed a reversed dimple will weaken the aluminum.

If you're building consistently you'll have a constant supply of new parts coming from Vans from mistakes, at least for a while. The parts are cheap, shipping can get you if you're on a schedule.

In the case of VS-702 "flush aft" means just that, the aft side of the part will have flush rivets.

jwoolard 01-08-2018 08:49 AM

It means
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dimple toward the front so the flush side is to the aft?
In this case, your going to mate that aft surface to a mounting bracket much much later on, so it needs to be flat.

iamtheari 01-08-2018 09:43 AM

Thanks for the answers. That makes sense and is consistent with what I had understood from the plans. I'll try to come up with another really easy one soon!

HAL Pilot 01-08-2018 02:15 PM

Aloha

I have consolidated most of the threads on VAF onto the digital plans for the RV-14 so that most of the questions like yours are on the specific page. I have it on a dropbox account. If you are interested in using it I need an email address to give you access. If you don't want to use a main email address feel free to make a new one that you can use for online boards or dispose of in case you start getting too much spam.


You will find this thread as a hyperlink on the bottom R of page 06-02.

Before you dive into the plans start at a minimum at pg 05-34.

pg 05-30 has some additional info.

Most everything else before that is just highlighted stuff w/no changes as of this date.

mturnerb 01-08-2018 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HAL Pilot (Post 1230718)
Aloha

I have consolidated most of the threads on VAF onto the digital plans for the RV-14 so that most of the questions like yours are on the specific page. I have it on a dropbox account. If you are interested in using it I need an email address to give you access. If you don't want to use a main email address feel free to make a new one that you can use for online boards or dispose of in case you start getting too much spam.


You will find this thread as a hyperlink on the bottom R of page 06-02.

Before you dive into the plans start at a minimum at pg 05-34.

pg 05-30 has some additional info.

Most everything else before that is just highlighted stuff w/no changes as of this date.

This is a fantastic resource: I use the links for almost every section and it has saved me some serious headaches.

iamtheari 01-08-2018 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HAL Pilot (Post 1230718)
Aloha

I have consolidated most of the threads on VAF onto the digital plans for the RV-14 so that most of the questions like yours are on the specific page. I have it on a dropbox account. If you are interested in using it I need an email address to give you access. If you don't want to use a main email address feel free to make a new one that you can use for online boards or dispose of in case you start getting too much spam.


You will find this thread as a hyperlink on the bottom R of page 06-02.

Before you dive into the plans start at a minimum at pg 05-34.

pg 05-30 has some additional info.

Most everything else before that is just highlighted stuff w/no changes as of this date.

Wow. That is awesome, and a lot of work. I made a spreadsheet, one page per section, one row per step, to keep track of page revision dates, steps completed / incomplete, and time spent on each step. That was enough digital labor, so I can appreciate your effort on doing this. I'll PM you my e-mail address for the Dropbox invitation. Thank you!

iamtheari 01-09-2018 09:32 AM

As a follow-up to this page, if I am priming should I prime the VS-702 and VS-01401 (and, in the general case, other spars and doublers) separately before riveting them together or after riveting?

Nova RV 01-09-2018 09:33 AM

If you are priming, you want the mating surfaces coated prior to assembly.

HAL Pilot 01-09-2018 02:49 PM

I have seen some builder logs where only the mating surfaces are coated. But that's a subject probably for the primer Wars ;-) I don't have an opinion on it yet just the input.


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