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txshan130 02-28-2017 09:29 AM

GNS 430 Sticky Button Repair
 
For those of you with "old" GNS430 or similar units...

For the last several years, my front faceplate buttons have been getting more and more unreliable. Seems like every time I went to fly it took more and more presses to activate the buttons. After checking on Garmin's repair prices, I decided I was up to the task of doing it myself :)

For most of us here, this would be an easy task...so here are some pics to help others make the decision which way to go! FYI, my 430 is at least 10 years old, if not a bit older.

I used DEOXIT (available at ur local Radio Shack) on the PCB and on the underside of each switch...

After putting it all back together, the switches all work like new again...very happy to have saved lots of money and time!

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dougbush 01-23-2018 07:44 PM

I'd really like to do this repair! Could you tell me more about how you did it?

I was intimidated as soon as I loosened the CDU Assembly and saw all those paper-thin ribbon cables and how little room there was to work on disconnecting them. Any tips?

Some of the ribbon cables seem to be soldered on to the backs of the concentric rotary switches--did you disconnect them? How?

How did you take those concentric rotary switches out?

How did you get the LCD out?

How does the front plastic (with the buttons and printing on it) come off?

Finally, how do the little metal dome switches come off the PCB and how do you re-attach them?

txshan130 01-23-2018 08:20 PM

PM me with your phone number and a good time to call.. I will go thru it with you.

cderk 01-24-2018 06:44 AM

I did this as well a few months ago after my enter button pretty much quit. Now its as good as new. Peeling up the plastic cover was a little nerve racking, but the DeOxit really made quick work of all of this.

I work in an engineering department, so I borrowed a 12v power supply and was able to rig up the unit in Test mode so I could bench test it after i was done with surgery. I would have hated driving 45 minutes to the hangar, only to find that i screwed something up.

BMC_Dave 06-14-2018 10:04 AM

So I'm having this exact issue on my 430 that was upgraded to a 430W in 2017, it's a 2007 unit originally. I'd really appreciate if anyone could give some detail on how to get the face plate off, it's not immediately apparent and I don't want to damage the unit. I've tugged on some things as hard as I dare and nothing has budged.

txshan130 06-14-2018 02:29 PM

Maybe post some pics as to what stage you are at... It's been a long time since I did it so I probably won't be much of a help anymore. Hopefully some other guys chime in with more recent info.



QUOTE=BMC_Dave;1266858]So I'm having this exact issue on my 430 that was upgraded to a 430W in 2017, it's a 2007 unit originally. I'd really appreciate if anyone could give some detail on how to get the face plate off, it's not immediately apparent and I don't want to damage the unit. I've tugged on some things as hard as I dare and nothing has budged.[/quote]

RONSIM 06-14-2018 02:49 PM

GNS 430 Repair Manual on line
 
I googled "Garmin GNS 430 Button Repair" and, in the list, found a link to the repair/maintenance manual ------ it gives some drawings and instruction for removing and replacing components ----- I did not read in detail, but it might be what you need --- (my 430 is starting to get sticky buttons)

Ron

f14av8r 06-14-2018 03:55 PM

Steely Eyed Missile Man
 
Brian,
You Sir, are a Steely Eyed Missile Man! I would never consider tearing into my 430 like that and I'm a Navy trained electronics technician! The big knob on the left side of my 430 just quit working and I returned it to Garmin for repair. They will charge me a fortune! Glad it worked out for you. Nice work!
Randy

BMC_Dave 06-14-2018 04:17 PM

The CMM didn't seem to have any useful information regarding the removal of the face plate. Since it was upgraded in May of 2017 I emailed Garmin asking if this unit was still under warranty, that's the obvious preferred choice. I'll wait to hear back from them, but I'm pessimistic.

I've not had anything apart, aside from removing the dials.

sglynn 06-14-2018 09:29 PM

king kx-155
 
This is great. I'd like to do this to the push buttons on my King KX-155 NavCom. Might you know how to open it so I can access it with DyOxy5?

thanks


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