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rvator51 09-08-2017 05:41 PM

Mike Seager approach to landings in RVs with C/S
 
Diess anyone know the approach that Mike Seagar uses to land RVs with C/S props?

JohnInReno 09-08-2017 06:26 PM

MAP and RPM
 
I did transition training in "old blue" RV6A C/S with Mike 7 years ago. Basically, on the decent to the pattern he taught MAP and on base and final switched to RPM.

BruceEicher 09-08-2017 06:47 PM

Mike has a pattern diagram he hands out. I'm fixed pitch so I did not keep the CS handout. Here's a thread showing the fixed pitch diagram, Mike or someone else will have the CS version....
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...attern+diagram

Mike S 09-08-2017 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rvator51 (Post 1202590)
Diess anyone know the approach that Mike Seagar uses to land RVs with C/S props?

What airframe?

Bicyclops 09-08-2017 09:44 PM

Flew with him in June
 
I flew with Mike in June in "7RV". It's O-320 and Hartzell. He taught: 23 squared for cruise, 12" MAP for descent, 16" on downwind. Fullest tank, check brakes, feet on floor - toes on rudder. Abeam the touchdown point, pull throttle, keep nose level, as it slows through 100 MPH - flaps half. 1 1/2 turns on the trim, boost pump on, prop and mixture forward, add throttle to 1800RPM, ignore MAP. About this time you've lost 200' and are 45 degrees off the TD point, turn base, trim for 85 MPH, angle the base leg toward the runway a little to account for wind. Somewhere on base, full flaps, turn final, hold 85. Pull power somewhere around the fence line, don't plan on adding power again. Don't change pitch until time to round out inches above the runway. If you flare high - pitch down a little as if recovering from stall and re-flare. Once you've got it rounded out, ease back to slowly assume 3 point attitude. When it touches down, steer for a couple of beats then slide feet up and gently begin steering with brakes.

This technique works like gangbusters. Two days after my last flight with Mike, I flew my 6 with perfect confidence.

Ed Holyoke

rvator51 09-08-2017 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike S (Post 1202605)
What airframe?

Its a RV-6a

rvator51 09-08-2017 11:03 PM

Thanks everyone for your replies. I have 50 hrs on my RV-6a with C/S prop now and trying to come up with a more standadized approach.

rockwoodrv9 09-08-2017 11:39 PM

How about for a 9a?
 
Since this is in the general forum thread, what about a 9A fixed?

I am getting scary close to being finished with my 9A. I am finishing up my license in a 172 and know the 9 will be way different than the 172. I plan on transition training before I fly myself - both for insurance reasons and Im not an idiot!

Does anyone have a diagram they would be willing to send to me or post for a 9A, fixed Catto prop? I might as well start comparing while I am finishing my license.

Thanks

Evolution10 09-09-2017 01:37 AM

Anyone have the RV-10 version they can share?

Thanks

Mike S 09-09-2017 09:29 AM

Congtatulations
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockwoodrv9 (Post 1202652)

I am getting scary close to being finished with my 9A.

Good job Rocky:D

Mike Seager usually has a pretty full schedule, better book early.


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